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dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Wouldn’t a better thing to teach be innovating upon technology and social structure, such that we no longer even need taxes? Nor any other rents designed to keep us down and impoverished. Imagine where we’d be now if not for the suppression of all the emancipatory technologies. All those patents being sat on, or secreted[1]. All those inventors usurped or disappeared. We have so much more headroom.

  If education were not so corrupted and riddled with nonsense and slave conditioning, perhaps there’d be fewer rejecting it; fewer throwing the baby out with the bathwater. We can all be polymaths in the making, not slaves in training.

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  [1: According to patent office whistle blower Tom Valone, (iirc) there were already over 3000 free energy device patents secreted by the year 2000. Seriously. We have so much headroom without the corruption. Even the rich parasites would be better off, with the release and proliferation of the emancipatory technologies. …Buuuuuut, that’s not in most people’s world view to which they’re attached, and so, they tend to go on attack upon encountering mention of such, as if this new information is a threat to their life.]

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  • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Total sidetrack and total missing the point.

    I didn’t say “taxes are good” or “current education is good”.

    The problem I posed is that knowledge transfer is an essential skill and people who are bad at it are–I would suppose–both oblivious to it and easier to take advantage of.

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    • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Total sidetrack and total missing the point.

      I didn’t say “taxes are good” or “current education is good”.

      The problem I posed is that knowledge transfer is an essential skill and people who are bad at it are–I would suppose–both oblivious to it and easier to take advantage of.

      Edit: TBH your comment is so whacky and on your own terms I didn’t even read to the end section. It’s not even left field, it’s 2 counties over.

      Edit 2: Now I read it in full and, bro, that’s a bunch of potentially well meaning conspiratorial retardation. Just no.

      You are unfortunately, literally pictured in the OP meme with a veneer of “I’m 14 and this is deep”.

      Fun to see such a retort, on same day as I posted a re-creation of the extended version of Graham’s Hierarchy of Disagreement.

      Starts with a non-sequitor, follows with an apparent strawman argument refuting an accusation not made, then a “not even wrong”, then arguing tone coupled with a celebration of ignorance and unwitting mischaracterisation, ending on two ad-hominems. XD See? Epistemology’s fun.

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      • dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Bro, come down out of your own asshole.

        Your real, no kidding argument is that this meme template best explains that people believe windmills cause cancer / vaccines cause autism / XYZ crazy thing is that the current state of education is * checks notes * “slave conditioning” and patents are being conspiratorially hidden for “emancipating technologies”? Really?

        This to you is a rational following of the discussion and context, not itself a wild non sequitur (note the spelling)?

        I don’t care what branch of philosophy you’re studying or what argument logic piques your interest because it just isnt relevant here. You’ve shoehorned an unrequested and unsubstantiated conspiracy theory into a post about people believing improbable and/or deranged things. And no, making your own footnote isnt a substantiation.

        You can’t “I am very smart” this into making sense, even by miscounting logical fallacies or trying to couch it as an epistemological discussion which this is not.

        Just… yikes.

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