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Depends on how “the government” fights, too. Guns don’t do shit against chemical warfare (tear gas etc.) or bombings. IMO, in a modern, developed state an insurgency can’t do shit if the military isn’t at least neutral, or they get support from foreign forces.

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DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Not paying a lot of attention to Myanmar I take it

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- rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Myanmar is exactly the kind of country that made me specify “modern, developed state”. Their military ain’t shit compared to the US or most european countries.
  
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  - DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    So you’re claiming something is impossible when there’s been zero popular revolts against your limited examples, mostly because no one running one has managed to fuck up that badly?
    
    Alright lol
    
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AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
insurgency can do a lot, especially if the “developed” nation doesn’t want to level the place because it’s either their place too or will result in many civilian casualties.

A large part of the US special forces mission is training locals in insurgent/gorilla tactics. Most of the swiss defense posture is training their general population to just be familiar enough with weapons and tactics to wreck havoc on invaders, their standing army and armaments are really small.

Source: a lot of time deployed

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- rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  if the “developed” nation doesn’t want to level the place because it’s either their place too or will result in many civilian casualties.
  
  You seem to have more trust in the Trump government than I do. They will absolutely go for mass civilian casualties if there’s a big insurgency in the US.
  
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  - AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    That’s a wild and sensationalized statement. I know that there are enough good people to prevent trump from killing tons of civilians. Most people I know in government right now are keeping their heads down and counting the days until the mid terms. Most of the people in the military, even on the right, roll their eyes at a lot of Trump’s rhetoric. The sycophant politicians are the only ones that really grovel, and while they can pass laws, and definitely fuck the government up, they don’t give the order to pull the trigger.
    
    In Nazi Germany they had a tight hold on propoganda, we have the internet, it’s really hard to do that now.
    
    In the 70s there was domestic terrorism and bombings all the time and there wasn’t mass civilian casualties.
    
    Is the insane rhetoric turned up right now? Absolutely, but there are many steps between where we are and mass civilian death by the hands of the govt.
    
    Also, please don’t put me in any camp of trusting Trump, that’s rude.
    
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