Just a whole bunch of people gotta suffer until it crash and burns.
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MagicShel@lemmy.zip 9 hours ago
I remain hopeful that interest will drop in AI generated products because the quality just isn’t there. You can tell the voices aren’t right, the pictures are soulless, the prose is stilled and often self-contradictory. I think people will respond negatively to that.
But how long it will take for that to be clear to CEOs and CFOs, I don’t know, and lives are being destroyed in the meanwhile. I think AI is a good tool, but I don’t know how to keep it as a tool but prevent amateurs from thinking the output is professional level when any professional wills tell you it isn’t.
I’ve generated a lot of text — mostly code and fiction. I’ve seen AI write some really good phrases I’d never have thought of. But I’ve never seen it generate so much as half a page before it writes something that requires editing. If you don’t write like 90% of a thing, its voice takes over and everything sounds terrible and flat even if you keep it from making factual errors.
And even the great bits require context or it won’t have any impact. AI is god awful at artistry. Sometimes I’ll ask it to analyze something I’ve written and it always wants to rewrite the bits that have style or panache and replace them with the most generic crap. I’m a terrible visual artist but I’m going to assume it does the same thing with image generation.
zqwzzle@lemmy.ca 6 hours ago
FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 hours ago
You can tell the voices aren't right, the pictures are soulless, the prose is stilled and often self-contradictory.
And you can't tell when the voices do turn out right, the pictures are fine, and the prose works well.
This all reminds me a lot of how people railed against CGI in movies, claiming that CGI scenes or actors would always look "uncanny valley" and that they'd always be able to tell. Many people continue to claim that to this day, unaware of just how much CGI is in each frame that they don't recognize as CGI. Or worse, they look really hard for things to complain are bad CGI and end up accusing non-CGI shots of being CGI.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 4 hours ago
Not sure who you’re used to dealing with, but I use AI all the time — damn near every day — and have done for 6 years. I’ve written a discord AI dungeon master. I’ve written hundreds perhaps over a thousand short stories often starting from a scenario I’ve written and watched them all play out time and again. I know LLMs inside and out. I’ve jailbroken them to see how far they can be pushed in terms of violence, evil, and intimacy.
I’m no professional author to be sure, but because I lack the knack for storytelling, not because I don’t understand the craft. So I understand the tools pretty well, and I can tell when they are poorly employed.
And I’m irritated because I 100% can tell, and I wish you were right.
Powderhorn@beehaw.org 6 hours ago
Most human writers require editing well before five column inches. Not trying to give a pass to LLMs, but humans don’t produce perfect output, either.
And there’s an old saw: “Everyone needs an editor … especially editors.” That’s why creative work is collaborative.
FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 hours ago
And why sometimes when a writer becomes immensely successful the quality of their output suffers - they become "too big to edit."
The Star Wars prequel trilogy is a case in point, IMO. Back on the original trilogy George Lucas had people who could tell him "no, that's a bad idea."
MagicShel@lemmy.zip 5 hours ago
Yeah the problem is pretty much everything AI does requires collaboration with an actual human expert. But we’ve got people who think it can be a therapist without an actual therapist, artist without collaborating with an artist, coder, author, marketing strategist, lawyer, doctor…
This isn’t me belittling AI, I think it can do some really incredible things, but the way I see it, everything it does requires actual cognitive ability and domain knowledge.
Powderhorn@beehaw.org 5 hours ago
I’ve used ChatGPT for work, just asking it to paraphrase original sources so I’m blinded from the original wording ahead of doing my rewrite. One paragraph at a time, it works great (I check against the source); feed it a full story at once, and holy shit, do you not have anything reliable. At that point, you’re spending more time checking and verifying than you saved by using it in the first place.