Neither of these say that. The first one is an instruction to the enslaved, not telling people to make slaves. The second is a historical command concerning a single empire.
The first one is an instruction to the enslaved telling them to obey their masters, whether they’re kind or cruel.
Does that sound like the Bible says slaves should not be enslaved, should rise up and free themselves or be freed by others?
To your second point, the passage names Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. The bible actually refers to these groups separately, and collectively as the “nations” that are encountered by the Israelites. These groups do (generally) have distinct identities and practices.
The passage Deuteronomy 20:17 commands followers to “completely destroy” each of these groups. How does that not constitute any sort of genocide?
I am absolutely happy to be wrong, and I’m not intending to be hostile - I know these beliefs are deeply held and are personal, and I’m not attacking you for your faith. Just want to make that clear! 👍
The first one is about non violence and submission. It’s not about slavery itself, so not saying people should be enslaved. But it’s saying slaves shouldn’t rebel. Slavery was generally accepted until recent times, and at this time it was typically a temporary arrangement in regards to debt rather than chattel slavery.
The passage in Deuteronomy is just about those people groups, from a historical event. It’s not a command that should be reflected in the modern day. The Messiah has came, there’s no need for violence anymore.
hotdogcharmer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Which bit?
Slavery: 1 Peter 2:18
Genocide: Deuteronomy 20:17
Obviously these are just little tasters, there’s definitely more in there :)
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Neither of these say that. The first one is an instruction to the enslaved, not telling people to make slaves. The second is a historical command concerning a single empire.
hotdogcharmer@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The first one is an instruction to the enslaved telling them to obey their masters, whether they’re kind or cruel.
To your second point, the passage names Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. The bible actually refers to these groups separately, and collectively as the “nations” that are encountered by the Israelites. These groups do (generally) have distinct identities and practices.
I am absolutely happy to be wrong, and I’m not intending to be hostile - I know these beliefs are deeply held and are personal, and I’m not attacking you for your faith. Just want to make that clear! 👍
Flax_vert@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
The first one is about non violence and submission. It’s not about slavery itself, so not saying people should be enslaved. But it’s saying slaves shouldn’t rebel. Slavery was generally accepted until recent times, and at this time it was typically a temporary arrangement in regards to debt rather than chattel slavery.
The passage in Deuteronomy is just about those people groups, from a historical event. It’s not a command that should be reflected in the modern day. The Messiah has came, there’s no need for violence anymore.