85 is not bad at all unless you have to work in the sun.

I am on a special interest forum, been a member for a long time and it’s got people around the world. A lady in Sweden said she was absolutely dying from the heat, could not sleep, because it was 23 degrees. Our AC is set to 78F most of the time and I am cool at that temp, but she would melt?

It really has to be what you grew up with. A real winter would kill me, I don’t know how people deal with it. Putting on clothes, taking off clothes, never really being warm, short daylight, hot food immediately getting cold because the cold air steals its heat, car won’t start but standing at bus stop so freezing then the bus uncomfortable because you are bundled up, WTF Winter People? What is it you like, or do you just like winter like we have here, the Swedish summer weather?