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iii@mander.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Now being massively rude and dehumanizing to others is an active choice one makes, that’s not a outgroup that one is in through any choice but their own.

Unfortunately, this perspective often misses a crucial truth. Most abusers have a history of being abused themselves (1). They are trapped in a relentless cycle of anger, rejection, and pain, struggling to escape a reality where kindness feels foreign and unrecognizable. Breaking this cycle is profoundly challenging, as it demands consistent empathy and kindness from others—qualities they initially perceive as weaknesses. This is the very lesson they absorbed in their formative years. They see their worldview validated as angry mobs of self-proclaimed “good guys” celebrate intentional agitation, hurt, and violence.

You’re arguing that the rest of the party should feel bad for the asshole that was kicked out.

Exactly! Vilify behaviour instead of people. Try to protect your friend that’s being bullied by supporting his behaviour. Recognize that everyone can be hurt or wronged, as well as can hurt and do wrong.

In other words: be empathic.

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JaymesRS@piefed.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
They’re not being bullied for their behavior, they are being bullied for their existence (unless you’re suggesting one support the bulling behavior). In our current environment there is no shortage of people reinforcing and welcoming the bullying behavior and decrying the existence of the bullied. If it was an issue of unfamiliarity you would have a point but that’s not the environment that exists and I’d prefer to make the bullied feel welcomed than the oppressor with what limited time and resources I have.

We all have choices to make, you seem to have chosen to make the oppressors and bullies feel more welcome with your time.

(Also, your link says that people who are ostracized by others tend to continue that cycle not that people who ostracized others were themselves victims of ostracization in the past. That’s swapping cause-and-effect, and doesn’t support your contention)

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- iii@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  I’d prefer to make the bullied feel welcomed than the oppressor with what limited time and resources I have
  
  Nobody truely is solely the bully or bullied. That’s what seperates empathy from parochial empathy: understanding not only people who you like, but also those who you don’t like.
  
  your link says that people who are ostracized by others tend to continue that cycle not that people who ostracized others were themselves victims of ostracization
  
  You might misunderstand the meaning of the word cycle?
  
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