I expect to pay more too, albeit very begrudgingly. To develop meat you have to feed vegetables to an animal for months/years and then you need to process the meat in a very specific manner to separate the meat, the offal, and the bones.
A vegetable patty? Just mush it all up and call it a day, maybe add some beetroot extract to give it that ‘bloody’ colour.
The lack of competition, the lack of consumer demand, and the lack of government subsidies have turned what should be a very cheap alternative into a luxury good.
It boggles my mind why we don’t subsidize plant based meats. Subsidizing it shouldn’t cost anything (should actually save money) as every customer who buys the now cheaper plant based option is not buying the subsidized meat option. The plant option is natrually cheaper so our expenditure on subsidies goes down, our impact on the environment goes down and no one is being forced to eat either. Choice stays. Eventually cost savers would move to the cheaper option, slowing increasing our savings and decreasing our inpact. Market for plant based grows, more companies come in to compete and make a better product. I must be missing something about how the subsidies are enacted. Oh and while we are changing things with food subsidies, let’s get corn out of our shit. Bring in more efficient crops.
For a vegan burger to have a taste that’s close to anything meat-like, you need hemoglobin and a bunch of other proteins that are very expensive to grow from plants. Colouring and consistency can be fixed quite cheaply, but taste is where things become tough. The best taste equivalent I’ve found, is the equivalent in shitty fast food burgers. I don’t think there’s anything close to a properly prepared burger yet, and I don’t think there ever will be, and I think that’s fine.
Vegan food isn’t necessarily more expensive than normal food. In fact, it can be cheaper if you cook right. You can’t just cook a meat meal and substitute a slab of vegan meat, though. Instead, take a recipe that was designed from the ground up to be vegan. There are so many Indian dishes out there that will best the pants of any slab of ground meat, mostly consisting of vegetables and spices. There are pastas and noodles that’ll beat most burgers and are equally easy to put together, all without a single piece of meat.
Vegan meat is a replacement for people who want to quit meat but can’t or don’t want to learn how to cook anything but the things they were used to.
Affidavit@aussie.zone 1 year ago
I expect to pay more too, albeit very begrudgingly. To develop meat you have to feed vegetables to an animal for months/years and then you need to process the meat in a very specific manner to separate the meat, the offal, and the bones.
A vegetable patty? Just mush it all up and call it a day, maybe add some beetroot extract to give it that ‘bloody’ colour.
The lack of competition, the lack of consumer demand, and the lack of government subsidies have turned what should be a very cheap alternative into a luxury good.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 year ago
It boggles my mind why we don’t subsidize plant based meats. Subsidizing it shouldn’t cost anything (should actually save money) as every customer who buys the now cheaper plant based option is not buying the subsidized meat option. The plant option is natrually cheaper so our expenditure on subsidies goes down, our impact on the environment goes down and no one is being forced to eat either. Choice stays. Eventually cost savers would move to the cheaper option, slowing increasing our savings and decreasing our inpact. Market for plant based grows, more companies come in to compete and make a better product. I must be missing something about how the subsidies are enacted. Oh and while we are changing things with food subsidies, let’s get corn out of our shit. Bring in more efficient crops.
skullgiver@popplesburger.hilciferous.nl 1 year ago
For a vegan burger to have a taste that’s close to anything meat-like, you need hemoglobin and a bunch of other proteins that are very expensive to grow from plants. Colouring and consistency can be fixed quite cheaply, but taste is where things become tough. The best taste equivalent I’ve found, is the equivalent in shitty fast food burgers. I don’t think there’s anything close to a properly prepared burger yet, and I don’t think there ever will be, and I think that’s fine.
Vegan food isn’t necessarily more expensive than normal food. In fact, it can be cheaper if you cook right. You can’t just cook a meat meal and substitute a slab of vegan meat, though. Instead, take a recipe that was designed from the ground up to be vegan. There are so many Indian dishes out there that will best the pants of any slab of ground meat, mostly consisting of vegetables and spices. There are pastas and noodles that’ll beat most burgers and are equally easy to put together, all without a single piece of meat.
Vegan meat is a replacement for people who want to quit meat but can’t or don’t want to learn how to cook anything but the things they were used to.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Maybe you can make your own veggie burgers. I never buy beef burgers. I just buy ground beef and make my burgers.