…you deliberately want to use a definition that precisely zero anarchist philosophers or thinkers use for anarchist thought?
That seems rather… silly? How can you critique or even talk about the ideas of anarchism without using the definition anarchists actually use? Do you expect anarchists to use a different term than the one already established in the literature?
If your favorite fantasy fiction genre uses a wildly different definition than the vast majority of people, but also the same but sort of not, then maybe you should take your arguments up with dictionary and encyclopedia publishers.
I am sure that if you presented the philosophers own breif definitions to each other or gave them a series of examples to decide Anarchy or Not-Anarchy then they would all disagree with each other.
anarchist thinkers, philosophers and academics should obviously get to define the term, no? Dictionaries are often wrong in countless ways for academic usage because the meaning of words are often more complex than can be summarized in one paragraph, dictionaries are not ultimate references, and ANYONE can create a dictionary, these are not academically primarily sourced documents these are what some guy thinks a word means based on a survey of some people who claim to, in no way shape or form should dictionaries be used in place of foundational documents and the notion that they are perfect and the best way to derive the meaning of any word is false…
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 months ago
…you deliberately want to use a definition that precisely zero anarchist philosophers or thinkers use for anarchist thought?
That seems rather… silly? How can you critique or even talk about the ideas of anarchism without using the definition anarchists actually use? Do you expect anarchists to use a different term than the one already established in the literature?
finitebanjo@piefed.world 2 months ago
If your favorite fantasy fiction genre uses a wildly different definition than the vast majority of people, but also the same but sort of not, then maybe you should take your arguments up with dictionary and encyclopedia publishers.
I am sure that if you presented the philosophers own breif definitions to each other or gave them a series of examples to decide Anarchy or Not-Anarchy then they would all disagree with each other.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 2 months ago
but the dictionary does use one similar to the academic definition…
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anarchism
if we use dictionary.com
“the principles or practice of anarchists”
so you’re wrong by your own source
anarchist thinkers, philosophers and academics should obviously get to define the term, no? Dictionaries are often wrong in countless ways for academic usage because the meaning of words are often more complex than can be summarized in one paragraph, dictionaries are not ultimate references, and ANYONE can create a dictionary, these are not academically primarily sourced documents these are what some guy thinks a word means based on a survey of some people who claim to, in no way shape or form should dictionaries be used in place of foundational documents and the notion that they are perfect and the best way to derive the meaning of any word is false…
finitebanjo@piefed.world 2 months ago
Me and DonPiano already had this discussion, Merriam-Webster dictionary page for Anarchy is verbatim what I said.