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Fades@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

If you do decide to take the plunge, much of trek has been remastered, TNG (the series that came after Shatner’s Kirk in the Original Series) for example was redone and got a Blu-ray release.

Unfortunately this hasn’t been done for others like Deep Space Nine and Voyager, which came after TNG’s run. So the community stepped in to fill this need.

I’ve gone thru many AI remasters and they have gotten better and better. Utr/Joybell used to be the best for DS9 until somewhat recently.

Enter DS9, Redefined; this project that has finished an AI remaster for all of DS9 and is currently working on Voyager (almost done with s1 I think). If you click that link, you can check out some of the footage and screenshots they provide (shown with a slider so you can easily compare source with remake)

Join their discord, and go to the #instructions channel, there is an ftp server for all completed episodes; you don’t need to run the workflows yourself on the source eps yourself

Enjoy old trek in a more clear and vibrant experience, the first time :)

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grue@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Unfortunately this hasn’t been done for others like Deep Space Nine and Voyager, which came after TNG’s run.

The reason for that, by the way, is that while TNG was shot on film (from which more detail could be extracted using new technology), DS9 and Voyager were at least partially mastered directly on videotape (especially the CGI effects) and thus there was no higher-quality source to pull from to begin with.

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- Fades@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Oh wow! Nice to learn the actual reason why. Directly in vhs my god lol
  
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  - grue@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, there’s a real doughnut-hole in the '90s-2000s between when stuff was old enough to be remastered and stuff was new enough to be digital/HD to begin with.
    
    There’s a really good Technology Connections video on the topic, by the way.
    
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    Fades@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah no way they would eat that kind of cost for not much value overall. The fans would love it but no way they make their money back.
    
    Thanks for the neat info tho!
    
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Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
That looks pretty good at first. I am a huge DS9 fan. But upon closer examination with those sliders, it looks like it’s just brighter. That’s it. Am I wrong?

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- Fades@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It does look minimal and honestly the source files weren’t that bad. It’s just an attempt to upscale the image so it looks better on bigger screens. If you look at previous AI up scales and such there are lots of artifacts and things like that and this project is the cleanest I’d seen.
  
  I like to watch trek on my big tv and the original source files are frustrating in that regard, so for you it may not be the same value and doesn’t make sense to replace an existing collection but for newer watchers may as well start at an improved version
  
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Metz@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Have you compared it to other upscales? there is a 720p from icecracked that looks excellent and to my knowledge even beats redefined by a noticeable margin.

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RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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Yen@kbin.social ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Aye much appreciated, will look at it later when I got some free time.

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negativenull@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Thank you for this!!!

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