Comment on 4chan and Kiwi Farms Sue the UK Over its Age Verification Law

• MurrayL@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The GDPR applies to any professional or commercial activity which involves the processing of the data of EU citizens.

  There are a few caveats, but yes - the GDPR does apply outside of the EU.

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  • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    the GDPR does apply outside of the EU

    What do you mean exactly? What do you mean by “apply”?

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    • JustARaccoon@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bro thinks he’s Jordan Peterson

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      • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • grue@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It really doesn’t, though. Unless the company running the website has a presence within the EU – which means it ceases to count as “outside” – there’s fuck-all the EU can do to enforce it.

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• JustARaccoon@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Fine companies in other countries for failing to uphold the law when working with citizens protected by said law.

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  • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fine companies in other countries

    The EU has no power in “other” countries, by which I presume you mean non-EU countries. It’s not possible for the EU to fine companies in non-EU countries. They could issue a fine but they have no power to enforce or collect the fine. The non-EU companies can quite legally just laugh at the EU and give them the finger.

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    • JustARaccoon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Your original comment was about the UK overreaching and policing companies from outside the UK how to do things. You got a reply on how the gdpr does the same thing (please, no one actually implied the legislation itself starts sending out emails, have the basic decency to understand the implication that it’s the EU and UK through GDPR that are pursuing things legally).

      It’s not possible for the EU to fine companies in non-EU countries. They could issue a fine but they have no power to enforce or collect the fine.

      I don’t know why you seek to make the distinction between “fining” and “issuing a fine”, the point was the UK is not the only one trying to do it. Whether it’s successful or not is not the point. Also they can totally enforce the fine by restricting those businesses from doing business within their territory until they comply. I don’t know how you could get it more wrong.

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      • rah@hilariouschaos.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        the point was the UK is not the only one trying to do it

        I don’t see any evidence of the EU trying to do with the GDPR what the UK is trying to do with the CPA.

        they can totally enforce the fine by restricting those businesses from doing business within their territory until they comply

        That’s sanctioning, not enforcing a fine.

        And yes they can do that but that’s not what Ofcom is talking about. Ofcom have explicitly stated that foreign citizens have “duties” under UK law. The word “duty” has a very specific meaning in English law, in fact it’s really one of the most basic concepts. It means there is an obligation on someone and if that obligation is not fulfilled then courts have the power to take action.

        Sanctioning a foreign citizen doesn’t imply an obligation. There can’t be an obligation because a foreign citizen, by definition, is not subject to English law. Ofcom is claiming that foreign citizens are subject to English law.

        I don’t know how you could get it more wrong.

        LOL

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