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RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I can only suggest reading some of “The Way We Never Were”. It’s a look at society and how it actually was vs the manufactured versions people today use to weaponize the whitewashed past as some sort of ideal. It’s not a psychological book or a deep analysis of society at all, but one of the things that struck me about it that relate to social circles and how it applies to men in particular is the loss of “the village” and the damage “self reliance” - the isolation of the American Family Unit by making it the Family Vs The World - has done to society and the ability of people to form steady social groups outside of work. This, and the need to constantly change jobs to move ahead financially also keeps people on unsteady ground with relationships.

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EnsignWashout@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

the need to constantly change jobs to move ahead financially also keeps people on unsteady ground with relationships.

That’s a great point.

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ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
There are some people dropping their life stories in this post, which should be a barometer for just how lonely everyone really is.

But yes, this. It’s all socio-economic. It’s capitalism ruining our world by forcing us to serve the system instead of having a system that serves us. It has been like this a long time, but if unmanaged, allowed to grow and consolidate beyond just the interests of a few companies here and there and allowed to turn into an all-consuming monster that takes away our politics, our social lives, our hopes and dreams, you end up with a very miserable population.

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- RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Yes, it’s “divide and conquer” on a grand scale. Because we don’t have groups we’re never strong enough to rebel.
  
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- zeropointone@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  It’s easy to blame everything on capitalism but reality is much more complex.
  
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  - ameancow@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    The only thing essentialist about us (and the only other explanations are essentialist) is that we’re highly social creatures, the point that we literally die without social contact like a goddamn lovebird or guinea pig.
    
    The only thing that’s gotten in the way of our social life of the past is the rampant increase in “luxuries” such as single-family homes, personal cars, computers that keep us inside, and the vast array of conveniences that let us survive with clicks and phone calls with strangers.
    
    At its heart, it’s not complex. We buy things that are sold to us to give us the illusion of comfort, but comfort is not good for us, having community is what’s good for us and makes happier and have more balanced perspectives, and we’re suffering massively and experiencing national divisions because we don’t have a sense of community broadly.
    
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    zeropointone@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    I recommend talking to people who lived in communist regimes. They weren’t happier or less lonelier. Everything related to community was just as fucked up (Because communist regimes can’t tolerate parallel social spheres - the political party must be the only community).
    
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