Things seems to have got better! My optometrist wouldn’t give the PD, only the prescription numbers. Was so mad I quit going for a few years, but in 50 years of wearing glasses, he really is the shit. So, went back. Now I get my PD and numbers, no hassle.

And yeah, I got my last pair from his office because I had solid insurance. Still could have got glasses from Zenni for the same or less, without insurance.

Are there now better places for specs online? Have only ever used Zenni.