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unfreeradical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Some of us concede as inevitable that work should be miserable.

Yet, some cast shame on those who emphasize the misery it causes.

Meanwhile, among those who describe wok as miserable, it is common to assume the reason as being that work involves effort, rather than that work, at least as most of us engage in it, requires being subordinated.

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EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Many concede as inevitable that work should be miserable.

There are some jobs that suck, but they’re essential. Like maintaining sewers in big cities. It’s a miserable job, but if no one does it you’re going to have huge problems really fast.

Supply and demand. There’s a high demand for workers of all sorts, but no employers want to pay the high price for having a worker on staff.

It’s not that no one wants to work anymore, it’s that no employers want to pay people enough to live and people don’t want to be forced to work 90% of their week to still not make enough money to live.

Business owners that don’t understand that are entitled and stupid.

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- unfreeradical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Why do you describe certain jobs, such as the ones you chose to mention, as being inherently miserable?
  
  The motive for my observation was to provoke reflection over the essential factors determining how we experience work.
  
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  - Mchugho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Everybody loves cleaning up other people’s poop. In a communist society here would be people queuing around the block to volunteer for that job instead of being an artist or a rock star. Everybody will just do things for fun and be shiny happy people.
    
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    unfreeradical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Unfortunately, you seem too angry and confused to participate in a meaningful conversation.
    
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helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
I understand and agree but memes like this and the whole “anti-work movement” are doing irreparable damage to any progress you could hope to make in “work reform”.

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- unfreeradical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  What is your particular grievance?
  
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  - helenslunch@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    I just explained my particular grievance in the comment you replied to.
    
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    unfreeradical@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    You provided two different names that each represent extremely general and often vague collections of ideas and objectives, and you complained that someone is pursuing one to the detriment of the other.
    
    No more is plain from the text you wrote.
    
    I am asking you to offer further details over how you personally are understanding the particular terms and perceiving the conflicts.
    
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