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grozzle@lemmy.zip 1 day agoif you’re posting about diversity being a negative, you’ve totally missed the point of all Star Trek since 1966.
It’s not that diversity is a negative. It’s a plus and a core part of Star Trek from the beginning. NuTrek has great diversity and terrible story telling that feels like it’s using the diversity as a crutch.
It’s like Ben and Arthur. I totally support the message that gay marriage should be allowed. However the movie is complete garbage because of how bad the story is told.
I’m bothered by the false equivalency made in the original post, though. The diversity isn’t the cause of bad storytelling. The problem isn’t that they prioritised one thing over another. Casting a white male lead on Discovery wouldn’t have given them more time to work out the plot, or a more talented stable of writers. The two are completely orthogonal to one another.
If someone wants to criticise the storytelling, they can just do that. There’s no reason to bring up diversity unless they have some desire to scapegoat it.
If this is so, your comment makes no sense. If i didn’t have an issue with it in the old trek, why would it be a problem now?
To make it absolutely clear: the problem is the order of priorities - that diversity is no1 and storyline is no99. Not that diversity is there.
For me, trek wasn’t primarily about diversity. It was about space and exploration, ethical dilemmas. By ‘chance’ it happened to have a diverse crew and it was irrelevant who they were.
Now, it’s primarily about diversity, minorities and who is in the team… god forbid we have one minority unrepresented. Space and exploration come not even second, but way down the list.
American society seems to overcompensate with that on TV to offset what is happening in the real world. For example making Cleopatra black.
Connecting this to international companies I used to work for: It was always better in multi-cultural environment. But imagine if you have to hire every nationality just to put a checkbox on some list, regardless of what they know and can do. This is how this trailer feels: forced for no good reason.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yea,vthey definitely fucked the phrasing on that one, but I think their point is it’s negative to focus on diversity over the story.
A good story with a focus on diversity and accepting others? Good!
Diversity for the sake of casting a minority actor in a role that’s otherwise squandered and only shown off as a token? Bad!
The positive interpretation is akin to what Warwick Davis meant in his criticism against Snow White: Don’t use minorities as a token, especially a marketing token. If you’re going to do it, make it mean something so they’re not just a token for marketing purposes.
usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
I doubt that’s what they meant, partly because it really doesn’t seem to apply to either Disco or Picard. Both had their fair share of issues in the writing, but I wouldn’t say tokenism was among them (unless you count Disco’s bury-your-gays moment, but they course corrected on that).
ijhoo@lemmy.ml 12 hours ago
Yep. Exactly my point.