Comment on Anon is feeling romantic

• MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Never heard of either, and the second song was co-written by a man, but I’ll say Joni Mitchell counts.

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  • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Those goalposts are like ten miles from where your started eh?

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Not really. Anon claimed 99% of love songs were WRITTEN by men, didn’t he?

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      • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I’m really starting to suspect anon is you.

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  • KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    I find it so interesting, that you seem to be under the impression that men are framed as evil by supposed feminists, yet denounce the work of a women if they worked with a man, as if the man being in the picture delegitemises the women’s sincerity and work. Isn’t cooperation regardless of gender what brings equality? Isn’t it unrealistic to expect anyone from never interacting with someone of the male gender in their career? I don’t think we should denounce the work of women for doing that, especially when looking at music from the past century, when women didn’t have the right to choose a career without a man’s permission

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    • MacNCheezus@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This isn’t as puzzling as you make it out to be. The whole point of feminism is claiming that women are just as capable and competent as men. So why do most of them seem to need help from men to write successful songs?

      Now I’m certainly not saying that women lack talent as a whole (Whitney Houston’s I Will Always Love You was written by Dolly Parton originally, so clearly is possible for women to produce a megahit love song), it’s just that extreme talent seems to be more common in men. What seems to be lacking is women’s ability to recognize and appreciate that in men, and that’s the point I believe anon was trying to make.

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      • KokusnussRitter@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        So why do most of them seem to need help from men to write successful songs?

        Patricarchy.

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  • RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Well Emmylou wrote the lyrics to it. And OMG it is a tearjerker so full of emotion.

    I personally wouldn’t argue the main point (men are way more into the trappings of “romance” than women are) because that’s been my experience too. But there have been historical barriers to entry for women in the arts.

    Kacey Muskgraves writes some sweet love songs (also more country like the other 2) .

    Maybe cultural too, Spanish chanteuses sing a lot about love, more than I hear in other American pop music.

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