Most people do not have the luxury of turning down a job offer, as the alternative is hunger and homelessness, which the employer uses as leverage to underpay their employee.
If housing and basic food staples were a human right (free) only then would you see fair wages in the open market, as people would have the option to turn down unfair jobs, forcing the employer to make them fair or hire no one.
I think employees generally get such a raw deal that a fair deal would be refreshing and positive. However when you look at massively overpriced roles, eg consultants, they’d probably say it wasn’t fair to give them a fair deal.
I generally agree. However, I was curious whether you had any thoughts related more directly to one of the earlier comments, concerning how fairness, within the context of employment, might be described or might be evaluated.
TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 year ago
A common saying is that a fair deal is one that neither party feels happy with, because neither one is taking advantage of the other.
MxM111@kbin.social 1 year ago
Which is what happens when a person is hired? Both parties are happy with the agreement, otherwise they wouldn’t accept, right?
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 1 year ago
Most people do not have the luxury of turning down a job offer, as the alternative is hunger and homelessness, which the employer uses as leverage to underpay their employee.
If housing and basic food staples were a human right (free) only then would you see fair wages in the open market, as people would have the option to turn down unfair jobs, forcing the employer to make them fair or hire no one.
MxM111@kbin.social 1 year ago
Therefore, we come back to question: what is fair?
Cruxifux@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Yes, everyone loves their job and is happy with their pay for their job. You solved it bud, great work.
Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Nope. Both parties benefit. Neither is happy.
MxM111@kbin.social 1 year ago
That’s your definition of fairness?
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I suppose someone’s feelings about a deal is also related, at least in part, to the original motive for seeking a deal of some particular kind.
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 year ago
How would you apply the general principle to the employment relationship?
TWeaK@lemm.ee 1 year ago
I think employees generally get such a raw deal that a fair deal would be refreshing and positive. However when you look at massively overpriced roles, eg consultants, they’d probably say it wasn’t fair to give them a fair deal.
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I generally agree. However, I was curious whether you had any thoughts related more directly to one of the earlier comments, concerning how fairness, within the context of employment, might be described or might be evaluated.
MxM111@kbin.social 1 year ago
But how do you know that “raw deal” is not fair?