Comment on How in the hell
MxM111@kbin.social 11 months agoNothing wrong in making money for someone else, IF you get yourself decent salary and have interesting work.
You make money for someone else in exchange for the safety of a consistent paycheck. Its like the old feudal system, in theory you are being protected in exchange for your labour.
If course in practise you are at the mercy of the company, and in the feudal system the protection you were afforded meant you needed to pay for your own armour and fight to the death to protect your owner.
If you’re one of the lucky few sure. But you’re kinda part of the problem. The vast, overwhelming majority of people on the planet work jobs they don’t really like just to keep a roof above their heads.
That’s the issue, not if someone else makes profit or not. If nobody makes profit from your work, but you still work job you really do not like just to keep roof above your head, then what’s the difference?
Why would someone need to work a degrading job simply to remain housed, other than because such impositions support the profit motive for landlords, lenders, and employers?
Why do you think it is because of that? Do you think the temp agriculture jobs, for example, would suddenly become having huge payments if farmers, who hires temp workers, have no profit? Please consider that farming is subsidized in US, because it is difficult to make profits there. Or do you think that cleaners who work in non-profit organizations have huge salaries and interesting job?
Eh, I’d argue that can make it more palatable, but honestly I do think, at least in most cases (I can think of outliers), it’s generally pretty exploitative to profit off of someone else’s labor that they themselves are not actually wanting to do themselves, like it’s not really fair in the grand scheme of things.
A simple way to fix that I guess would be if every company was a co-op. Since then everyone is profiting equally, and no one’s labor is being exploited for the exclusive benefit of another.
TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I dunno, working in construction contracting has taught me that time in man hours is the ultimate pricing value point. Someone who gives up their time should reap the most benefits. Someone who owns a business and pays others to work should be heavily taxed.
Earning a bit more does help make it more palatable, but it still isn’t fair.
MxM111@kbin.social 11 months ago
What is fair? How to define fair?
TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 months ago
A common saying is that a fair deal is one that neither party feels happy with, because neither one is taking advantage of the other.
MxM111@kbin.social 11 months ago
Which is what happens when a person is hired? Both parties are happy with the agreement, otherwise they wouldn’t accept, right?
unfreeradical@lemmy.world 11 months ago
How would you apply the general principle to the employment relationship?