Comment on Do the people in Reniassance festivals pccurring in Brotain also speak with faked British accents, or do they ise faked French/Iralian accents?

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• Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Used in place of the it’s wrong, it’s just pronounced the.

  There was a ye though! It was the second person plural subject word (singular was thou). So we used to have a more official word for y’all when used as a subject. Y’all is cool though, we should all adopt it. I hate saying “you guys” or something, so awkward sounding.

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  • leftleaninghaggis@lemmy.radio ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ‘Ye’ as second person plural is very much a thing in Ireland, especially in the west, as in “Are ye going out tonight”.

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    • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s neat! It’s definitely a handy word to have I think, I’m jealous. I hate the United States tendency toward “you guys,” or something instead like that so awkward. The south figured out the issue by using y’all.

      If you hear ye in the United States, it’s probably just someone misunderstanding that y was sometimes used to represent the thorn ‘th’ sound as in “Ye Olde Shoppe” which should still just be pronounced, with a th.

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  • Forester@yiffit.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Stairs intently in southern US vernacular English

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    • Forester@yiffit.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Stares intently in southern US vernacular English

      Ye need to get your act straight before before y’all friends find out.

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      • vivadanang@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ye’uns

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  • BallsInTheShredder@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Really happy to see people accepting “y’all” lol, It just makes so much sense!

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  • RBWells@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hear ye, hear ye! We do still use this sometimes.

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  • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So, like “thee”?

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    • Ranvier@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thou was the singular second second person subject word, but thee was the singular second person object. So usage would be like “thou are talking to me” or “I am talking to thee.”

      Ye was the plural second person subject, and you was the plural second person object. So instead of like “y’all are talking to me” now, you could say “ye are talking to me”. Or “I am talking to you” which would be referring to me talking to more than one person (not just one person like you’d think with modern usage of the word).

      Doubly confusing because for singular the word ending in the “e” sound is the object pronoun, and for plural is the subject pronoun.

      The word “you” eventually took over all these usages and is used for both subject and object now, and it’s mostly just used to mean singular now. We don’t really have a word for plural second person outside of using multiple words to clarify like “y’all” or “you guys.” We still have many other pronouns with the subject object divide though like “I” vs “me,” “he” vs “him,” or “who” vs “whom.”

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      • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks, that was an interesting read!

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