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• MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Yes, theory. It is NOT scientific fact. It is only supported because there is much evidence to support its occurence, NOT because scientists have “faith” in it. There is DATA behind it.

  Also, there is new data that brings its occurence in to (some) question, and scientists are looking in to it, as opposed to idiots who would merely “have faith” that it occurred and not further examine it.

  Again, your insistence on using “faith” only proves how little you understand of science or its products.

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  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why are you so angry and judgemental about this. You need to have faith in a theory to explore it, yes? If you didn’t, you would let it go. I’m saying faith and theories are similar, if not the same.

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    • GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is a difference between confidence and expectation and faith. The scientific method has 5 steps.

      1. Question
      2. Research
      3. Hypothesis
      4. Experiment
      5. Conclusion

      Yes, as a general rule, scientists believe a certain outcome will occur. This isn’t faith, though, this is an expectation based on their knowledge and the research they’ve done to design the experiment. They then go on to ignore their beliefs and test it anyway. They do this because they don’t operate on faith, they operate on proof. And if the outcome isn’t something they expect, which has certainly happened, they then they to find out why, design new experiments, and perform further studies until they have confidence that they have a good understanding of what they’re studying.

      If they were operating on faith, they could skip all those steps and just go on what they believe, like with Aristotle believing women had fewer teeth. This leads into other related components of the scientific method: verification and repeatability. A good experiment can be repeated by another scientist and get the same results. And why would they repeat the test? Certainly not due to faith!

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    • MotoAsh@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      No. No one needs faith to understand where knowledge is lacking. You speak as if you’ve never had a question to answer in your life. Genuinely, a pathetic experience of the unknown.

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