Comment on Workers are not valuable

Garbanzo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  if you know of any company that has a union that includes the IT support team, I will pursue it aggressively. Sadly, even the companies with unions often omit the IT/support staff as covered under the contract. But if you (or some future reader) finds such a company, let me know and I’ll add them to the list of places to watch for openings.

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  • Garbanzo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Here are a few places to start looking: https://techworkerscoalition.org/ https://www.joinifpte.org/tech https://upte.org/ https://cwa-union.org/ https://aflcio.org/about-us/our-unions-and-allies/our-affiliated-unions

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    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      looking into this, broken down by links:

      techworkerscoalition.org

      • this looks good on paper but no canadian branch exists currently. A good option for those living in an area covered by them (not me, but others may benefit).
      • countries with chapters include the USA, Brasil, India, Germany, Ireland, England, Italy, and The Netherlands.

      joinifpte.org

      • International Federation of Professional & Technical Engineers.
      • They exist in Canada, but seem to be more oriented towards professional engineering (structural, electrical, that sort of thing), less-so things like network engineering.
      • I.T. staff missing from their “Occupations” under “whom we represent” on their about page. No related technical jobs are listed beyond Programmers, which could be computer programmers but also could be something else. They also list “Technicians” but that can really be anything also, so I have no idea.

      Potentially worth contacting them to inquire further about whether they cover IT/support workers, and if so, what companies they represent, so I can focus job searching on the companies that are local to me.

      upte.org

      • Part of the CWA
      • seems to represent mainly healthcare researchers and professionals, along with technicians (I assume in the medical field, like lab techs and assistants).
      • California based, seems to be US-centric, no international coverage, good for US workers in healthcare.

      cwa-union.org

      • Has presence in Canada
      • "Communication Workers Association"; specifically referring to media workers, like TV and multimedia companies. Most notably for canada, they represent the workers of the CBC, or Canadian Broadcasting Corporation; which is great, but not really in the computers/technical field I’m in, and likely exclude I.T./support staff from contracts.

      aflcio.org

      • Seems to be an umbrella for several other unions, most notably SAG-AFTRA, NFLPA, trades (electrical workers, machinists and aerospace workers, fabrication, etc). Very little if any unions listed seem to be computerized-tech related or specialized.
      • Their tagline is “America’s Unions” which should tell you all you need to know about their focused locale, probably not a great option for locales outside of the USA.

      My main issue is with the fact that none of these explicitly list, and very likely do not represent workers in the computerized technologies, with the possible exception of programmers, which I am not a programmer. This is great information for anyone living in the USA or working in a highly technical/skilled environment, but does not pose an answer to my initial inquiry, which was a union that includes the IT support workers. For someone working a non-IT position, or someone working in the USA, there’s likely a union that only needs to be found.

      I’m not angry or upset at the response at all, you tried and I appreciate that. Hopefully this is good information for other people, and I hope it helps them. It does not however seem to help me much or at all. Regardless, I appreciate the effort. Unfortunately as IT support, I’m generally cornered into non-union positions, which makes me vulnerable to more exploitation than other fields; which isn’t to imply other workers and groups are not exploited, they just usually have some options where they can have better representation that I could have to advocate for their wages and benefits compared to what I can do individually.

      Regardless of all of the above, I wish everyone who reads this all the best in their career. I hope you all get the best representation possible, and that you’re successful in negotiating for your livelihoods regardless of your locale, chosen vocation, experience, race, religion or any other factor beyond your specific skill set. I bear no ill will towards anyone who has a union simply because I do not have the same opportunities.

      Have a wonderful day.

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