The war in Afghanistan went on for 20 years, with Iraq and Vietnam lasting not much less. And once the US military left all of those countries, all of the regimes that the US put into place fell apart relatively quickly.

In what universe are those conditions a win? In what universe are they even a tie?!?

I know you’re just parroting an argument you’ve seen written by someone else before. Maybe it’s because of patriotism. Maybe it’s because of pride and not wanting to admit defeat. Maybe it’s something else. Regardless, I ask that you take a step back and actually think about your comment logically.