Comment on First they came for steam, then they came for itch.io .

• Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Hopefully you’re referring to Visa/Paypal, not Itch.

  One place that comes to mind is Verotel. I barely know them, but supposedly one of their star attributes is their use for adult businesses. Likely someone else knows them better.

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  • pupbiru@aussie.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    visa have similar restrictions… the issue is that payment processor, merchant, card network, issuing bank, and acquiring bank (and a few more) are all different layers to facilitating a transaction… there are very few card networks in the world, and essentially people pay online using mostly either just visa or mastercard

    technically you could probably run a site that only accepts amex, diners club, jcb, discover, etc but it really wouldn’t go well: people want to whip out their card (often their only method of online payment) and just pay and go

    you’d also need to find a payment processor that would be comfortable taking on the risk of facilitating transactions around mastercard and visa… they might just cut them off from access to their network

    making things even more difficult is that by law in the US payment processors must offer at least 3 (i think? it might be 2?) “routes”, so you probably have to have a pretty mature payment processor because they’d have to accept several of the alternative card networks

    oh and you have to push various stats to the federal reserve which is a massive back and forth bureaucratic challenge even above the technical challenge of interfacing with some pretty awful systems

    there are a buuuuunch of other spanners that get thrown into the works, but i’m not sure where the NDA line hits so i’m gonna just leave it there and say trust me, payment processing is an absolute nightmare mess

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• Cocodapuf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I’m not sure that works, like on a purely game theory level. If gamers start to apply pressure, threaten to stop buying games, the stores need to make a choice:

  A. Risk facing the wrath of the games, sales are likely to drop. Possibly by a lot, perhaps 15-20%. That could keep up for months before stabilizing.

  B. Risk facing the wrath of the payment processors, credit card sales will stop immediately, only alternative payment types get through. Sales drop by 80% and that will continue indefinitely.

  While both of those options are bad, one of them is totally fatal to their business.

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  • Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I meant pressing the payment processors, like those prude activists are.

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    • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I find it offensive that the only effective way to combat this is to fight fire with fire and also make a big bitchy noise about this like the conservatives love to do. I have better things I would rather be doing with my life. But such are the times we live in I suppose.

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      • Mk23simp@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        In the short term, I think that collectively being Karens about it would be to reverse the pressure, by steering the monopolists away from oppressing us. Because they are mainly motivated by money.

        In the long term, take away their monopoly power.

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