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flyingsaucerhat@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

I’d love to see some data backing this argument up. Doesn’t seem like years of sanctions on Russia, Iran, or North Korea had a sufficient impact to cause any change. Harming the economy can just as likely be used to reinforce the regime by creating a common enemy and blaming them for the people’s hardships (like North Korea does with the USA) On the other hand, use of force was pretty effective in causing change in Nazi Germany or Japan.

Of course it’s not all straightforward. Change by force can have negative results, and change by economic means can have positive ones. That’s why I’d love to see the data, if there is any

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UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

Doesn’t seem like years of sanctions on Russia, Iran, or North Korea had a sufficient impact to cause any change.

Seems like it made them more insular, more self-sufficient, and more hostile to future diplomatic entreties.

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- Nico_198X@europe.pub ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  yeah, because that’s what Putin wants?
  
  let us know when you come back to reality.
  
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  - UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Putin wouldn’t be President of Russia if the US and the USSR had been able to settle their differences without a 60 year long series of proxy wars and regime changes. Neither would Trump, for that matter.
    
    You played yourselves.
    
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    Ushmel@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Putin is in power specifically because they settled their differences and Yeltsin was such a drunk idiot that it pushed people to vote for someone who promised stability and prosperity. Putin wasn’t very anti-West until the 2010s. I’m old enough to remember when there was mild talk about Russia joining NATO.
    
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    Nico_198X@europe.pub ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    sure, jan.
    
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