Perhaps Voyager had a tiny chance Which is odd, because DS9 had better ratings when they were both on and received more critical acclaim. Yet somehow Voyager had remained more in the popular consciousness and had more enduring popularity. I think a lot of it had to do with Berman favoring Voyager. Its reruns also saw a lot more syndication. I was a teenager in the 2000’s so I only ever saw reruns of 90’s trek growing up and it was usually Voyager and rarely TNG. I never saw any DS9 until it became available on streaming.
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UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 1 year ago
I mean, DS9 wasn’t as popular as TNG back then – both in terms of ratings and fan reception. Many considered it the black sheep of the Trek family. Berman focused on Voyager. So it was chrystal clear to every fan with even half a brain that DS9 would never get a movie. Perhaps Voyager had a tiny chance but by the time it concluded its run viewership had been in steady decline, and then Nemesis tanked.
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Salamendacious@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Voyager had consistently mediocre writing. I, somewhat cynically, always thought the reason moore did Battlestar was to show everyone what Voyager could have been.
Melco@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Wow I have to agree with this. Voyager episodes often start out with am interesting premise, the show progresses too slowly then in the last 2 minutes: “I have to go now my planet needs me.” and the episode is over instantly.
The writing is horribly unsatisfying.
mosiacmango@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Ohh man, the “demon planet” melting voyager clone episode really set my teeth on edge with this.
Super interesting premise, the metal clones fly out on their own ship, invent/discover new tech that is super useful, almost get home, but then begin to melt. People die, tom gets dark and broody in a realistic way, but then as its getting good and they all start to die. They super warp home to the devil planet but they realize they arent going to mske it, so they fire off a “stable bouy” about who they are/what they learned. By pure, totally realistic happenstance, this buoy both doesn’t survive and the actual voyager is passing nearby at the time, just close enough to see their destroyed remains.
In the insane vastness of space, the chances of these two ships with vastly different propulsion capabilities passing by each other in the very minutes one of them disintegrates is so unlikely as to be nearly impossible, and of course it failed in a way that fully resets any boons actual voyager might have gained from it.
Melco@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The worst for me was the episode where Tom Paris breaks the trans warp threshold and becomes an omnipresent God and starts evolving 1000 years a minute.
Janeway realizes it and says- this will change our very existence. Wow! but instead of exploring this they turn him and Janeway into giant lizards then in the last few minutes the doctor just magically changes then back- The end.
WTF, such a waste. There must have been a writers strike that year.
Salamendacious@lemmy.world 1 year ago
If it weren’t for tuvok and the doctor I don’t think I could have finished that series. It’s the only trek I’ve never really rewatched too. Not counting the modern shows.
UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 1 year ago
I think you’re not too far off.
Here is an excerpt from The Fifty Year Mission (book 2) by Mark A. Altman and Edward Gross. I highly recommend those books. They are super insightful about the behind-the-scenes stuff from the first 50 years of Star Trek.
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bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 1 year ago
God damn. I’m almost done watching DS9 for the first time right now and was planning on diving into Voyager right after. But this makes me not want to.
UESPA_Sputnik@feddit.de 1 year ago
Voyager is alright. It’s just very uneven. What drags it down is that the producers only very rarely took big swings that had a lasting impact on the characters or the show. Voyager excels at being episodic television. There are a bunch of stinkers (as there are on any TV show) but when it’s good, it’s really good. It has some of the best Trek episodes.
Maybe use an episode guide with ratings (for example Jammer’s Reviews, Ex Astris Scientia or IMDb) and skip the episodes with low ratings.
Salamendacious@lemmy.world 1 year ago
I want CBS to, on hands and knees, beg RDM to fix Trek now. Oh I’d squeal like a 60s girl at a Beatles concert.