Comment on Vote manipulation by rodneyck@lemmy.world
rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I am the user in reference. Did I use another instance to down-vote, yes in this case. Why? because I felt I was backed into a corner. In hindsight, I should have contacted the mod admin or whomever, but this was not the first time they have done this to me, it happened also on memes @ lemmy world. I am sure others have come across their behavior on meme sites.
The complete story, which go $fsk yourself conveniently leaves out, is that he is part of a gang/group of users that go around meme sites, and other art related sites, and harass people who use AI. Firstly, some AI memes are hard to detect if AI is even involved. I can hardly tell at times, nor do I really care, but this anti-AI fascist group of users seem to police most memes and point a finger and cry “YOU ARE USING AI!!”, as if they alone can determine for us. Didn’t the Nazi’s do this sort of behavior when they banned/burned “questionable” books?
The real issue is they are using an outside tool, as noted below, to harass users. How do you know this? Well, look at the post, is go $fsk yourself or any of the other anti-AI posters there commenting on the meme’s content? No, they are there with their agenda…to harass and bully people who us AI. He is trying to cover it up and play the victim, as they have done before.
I apologize to the community for using the alts, it won’t happen again, but there is a much serious issue here. The fact that a user is using an outside tool on your community and others, and even so bold as to teach others, as noted below, how to use it to go after other users.
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
How can a community mod ban that wool? It uses federation information, so only an admin defederating the instance used by the tool would prevent the tool from working.
rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I have no idea how the admin tools work, so asking the wrong person. He told me they ‘plan to’ ban it, didn’t say how…or when. I have already escalated the issue, now that go$fskyourself and his bullying gang have shown themselves over this incident, to the actually lemmy programmers. They were already aware of this outside tool, and it didn’t sound like they were happy about it, but left the issue dangling. I have re-opened it showing the abuse from go$fsckyourself and how it can harm others, so we will see what can be done.
I assume one can create a community and gain admin tools? If that is true, can you then use that tool to also see up/down votes by users outside your own community? If so, that would be another easy exploit.
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
So that’s what I meant, this tool cannot be blocked at the community level, which was what you were saying above.
Votes on Lemmy are public by nature, they are just hidden to the general user but it’s very easy to show them.
rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Gotcha, well that is unfortunate, as it is obviously being used by some, go$fsckyourself, for exploit.
gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s most likely that it’s just another lie. That’s the most likely answer considering this user’s history.
moseschrute@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
I assume that tool is using a collection of existing accounts to cast the votes? If so, can you just identify which accounts those are and report them to whatever server they are hosted on? I didn’t read the whole thread so maybe I’m missing some context.
Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
It’s basically using the tool owner instance to show upvotes and downvotes (admins always see them as their instance needs that information to count votes accurately)