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Comment on A secret, never-mentioned fact is that the people who voted for Zohran are also taxpayers.

They certainly pay sales taxes, possibly property taxes too, they probably have to pay fines because the cops love to prey on the poor, and there’s also fees to use government services. That’s all taxes.

But there’s this concentrated attempt to denigrate people with lower income as useless eaters that don’t contribute to society, and so they don’t think any of that counts.

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teamevil@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
They’re just stupid and meant folks who make all the money don’t pay raxes

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imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Totally fair. I wasn’t thinking about all the taxes the government steals from us, just the income tax

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- queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Right, that’s the point of the “taxpayer” dog whistle. It trains people to think that poor people don’t pay taxes, and implies they’re lesser members of society because of it.
  
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- GoofSchmoofer@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  taxes the government steals from us
  
  No it’s not the government that is stealing from us its the Uber wealthy that use our tax money (that should be going to the greater good of the citizens of the country) for their own gain.
  
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  - frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    So I’m aware there is a right-libertarian argument at work here that frames all taxes, always, as “stealing”. However, there’s an argument that can be used along more democratic socialist lines.
    
    Taxation in representative democracy is legitimate when the democracy itself lives up to the terms. We have come to some kind of consensus as a society on the level of taxation and where that money should go. When we do that, and we say the road is “our road”, we mean that in a literal way.
    
    The US is not a democracy that lives up to the term. “Taxation is theft” is correct in this context.
    
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    HasturInYellow@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    As with everything context is key. Taxation is not inherently theft, but in the USA, it absolutely is.
    
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- chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The poor pay the largest portion of their wages in taxes. They also benefit society far beyond any other social group. It’s the wealthy that take the most from the rest of us and pay almost nothing back.
  
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