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Smart apex hunters always conserve as much energy as they can during a hunt. Because you don’t know when your next meal might show up. And firearms do make hunting a more sure thing. Hunting game, of any kind, is high risk-- higher reward effort. Most hunters go home empty handed or with little to show for the effort. But, if you do get it right, the effort can be handsomely rewarded.

So if you are smart enough to develop ranged weapons, you eagerly use them to hunt supper.

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Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
Seafood requires far less effort to collect. Make lobster traps and trotlines which are catching food while you can do other tasks at the same time. Seaweed for some veggies on the side.

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- Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Seafood requires a lot of expensive resources to acquire. Boats, nets, traps, baits, access to the water, and not to mention the inherent risk of being on the ocean. Better to hunt herbivores on land.
  
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  - Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Sure you can spend a lot if you want, but I have caught crabs with a bit of string. Seen people catch stuff bare handed as well.
    
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    Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Fishing is fun and good, but you still need access to water with a fish living in it. But a sharp stick or a rock is still cheaper and easier. Even a bow and arrow is very low tech and easily fashioned.
    
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DarthFrodo@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
But could the average hunter still hunt without the help of modern technology? Those who are entirely unable to do so are obviously not apex predators.

A lion can hunt any day without relying on a rifle, the vast majority of hunters could not.

So if you are smart enough to develop ranged weapons

How many hunters have the skills to develop and manufacture their own weapons?

Hunters that can build their own bows or spears and are able to hunt with them are genuine apex predators, that’s fair.

Those who are completely reliant on industrially produced high tech firearms bought in a store, and would be outcompeted by any house cat without them, are not.

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- Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  A lion can hunt because they come with weapons biologically attached. Humans not so much. And even you could fashion a spear with little effort. Which by your definition would make you a apex predator. And it did so for millennia.
  
  I’m an old toolmaker that still has a small shop. I could make firearms from scratch if I wanted to. There is nothing special or complex about them. But I choose to purchase them from stores. So perhaps that demotes me from being a apex predator.
  
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  - exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    In order to make a firearm from scratch you must first create the universe.
    
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    Bluewing@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    In order to bake an apple pie you must also create the universe.
    
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