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I don’t have a screen reader installed so I cannot try it but I can guess how it can screw with it. However I agree with Monkey With A Shell here. It’s not realistic for all users to follow semantics, this can only be solved with a better software.

While I use markdown daily, apparently there are still things I don’t know about it. Well, I mostly learn them when I need them but still. So, I could use — (speech dash) instead of -, which I assume wouldn’t cause a problem with a screen reader. There is no way for me to remember its shortcut on the keyboard, but it seems Markdown already covered this with — which ends up rendered as —.

Thanks for making me noticing about it, learned something new today.

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lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
It’s not realistic for all users to follow semantics

Not realistic for users to write lists the normal way that doesn’t look wrong? I don’t know guys

-first -second -third

looks obviously bad whereas

- first - second - third

looks right. Then you see the rendered result in preview.

I don’t think this is asking much.

If you weren’t trying to write a list, though, then I don’t know what you were doing & I doubt a chat bot will either: could you link to an example of what you were trying to do? For all you know, I’m a chat bot not figuring out your intent. No technology is about to fix PEBKAC.

I think the bottom line is if you write lists normally, then everything else including accessibility will turn out right without you needing to understand the intricacies.
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- muhyb@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I definitely wasn’t trying to write a list, it was a riddle or a conversation. What I was trying to do is this:
  
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  Though, it seems speech dash is not a thing in English. So I understand the confusion.
  
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  - lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    You had me pondering…yes, quotation dash: it is a thing in English, just less common!
    
    Please disregard what I wrote before: you had it almost correct, but use em dashes — as you suggested before. Some OSes offer nice character pickers for less common punctuation: for example, Windows summons it with WindowsKey+.. Apologies.
    
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    muhyb@programming.dev ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    No worries. I tried to look on my English novels first but couldn’t find anything like this. I was almost certain that I saw this in one of the Roald Dahls but nope. Well, learned the official name of it too, quotation dash. Thanks.
    
    By the way, Meta (Windows key) + . opens emoji list in KDE.
    
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  - Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Yeah its not a thing in English. In Spanish it is as well and learning to read novels in English was a bit confusing at first. I believe the official name is en dash or em dash I forget which
    
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    muhyb@programming.dev ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Didn’t really notice until now, though it seems some English speaking people used these dashes in their books apparently but I don’t think I ever read one of them. It’s hilarious to see these cultural differences may cause problems like this. :)
    
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