I think the term even comes from gay vocabulary, usually used for bottoms. so it’s only misogyny in the sense that it originally excluded women
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Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 1 day agoI’m not a native speaker but… breedable is not gendered? Or what do you mean? In addition, seeing Stamets post history, I’d say the argument doesn’t… fit?
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AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 21 hours ago
MEME FYI: Essentially, submissive and breedable is meant to be an absurd, funny term of endearment, especially when used towards men, who might not particularly take the terms “submissive” or “breedable” as compliments in a traditional sense. It’s often used in the LGBTQ+ community and towards more effeminite men, including femboys like F1nnster, to compliment them on looking, well, submissive and breedable.
Except, this context is missing in this meme, here it is associated with a girl portraying a character that was sold as part of a deal to be bred with. It is no longer absurd or flipping gender roles. That was her value, being breedable. It doesn’t matter who stamets is, same rules apply. Memes mutate and change. Your body my choice.
In the original context it is funny because it is absurd, they are men joking among each other knowing they don’t breed, and they are also not in danger of being used as sex slaves powerful men. It’s funny because we live in a post-homophobic, post-misogynist and post-racial world. They even shut down the f*****-suicide prevention hotline recently because it was no longer needed!
You can criticize me for using the completely goonerified word “edging” because that is just triggering. I thought it was clever since words have power precisely because they have hidden meaning.
Stamets@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
here it is associated with a girl portraying a character that was sold as part of a deal to be bred with.
No?
And I would say you are pretty much the only one interpreting it that way, hence the downvotes? Not because we are a bunch of mysoginists… I hope.
I mean Emilia Clark played other roles than Khaleesi and I absolutely did not think about that role seeing this meme.
AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 5 hours ago
Well, all I saw was a young, beautiful, extremely “breedable” women. To be fair I did not know about the gay meme beforehand, but again, that context is stripped here anyway. So not everybody knows the original meme. And that “breedable” would by exclusion be associated with the gorgeous Emilia Clarke on some level (subconscious / emotional - no “thinking” required). My assertion doesn’t rely on her most famous role either.
So just because a majority is downvoting me doesn’t mean I’m incorrect in asserting that this is a (somewhat) misogynist meme. I also don’t think people are misogynist here, I just think they are fucking morons.
Of course it doesn’t matter much anyway. The rise of fascism is unstoppable now and women are going back to the kitchen and in the bedroom to breed. And the gays will be used as kindling - no offense, they just “stand out”, you know? It’s nothing personal, but for the engine of capitalism to continue, the belief in inequality has to be shifted from class to identity. And that requires a lot of hard work!
I’m not being incredibly serious in my replies because frankly, people are fucking idiots. But this is a serious issue. The joke in OP, to get your brother to say something incredibly sexist, yeah it’s funny. But it’s also shit that the ruling fascists would say unironically, with legal force. Adriana Smith might be dead, but she’s still definitely fucking “breedable”. You think they won’t try to get the supreme court to define a women’s role as being a sacred duty to breed? Not because of ideology, but because having access to oppressed and exploitable minority is awesome for profits.
Anyway lol
Stamets@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
You mean the nonstop homosexuality that I pump out on a regular basis?
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Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 12 hours ago
Maybe.
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