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Coelacanth@feddit.nu 3 days agoThat’s good to know. Are the expansions independent or do you have to get through the base game first? Would you recommend just doing Mask of the Betrayer and calling it a day there?
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
MOTB directly follows the ending of Core… to the point it actually made things awkward for Obsidian because of how they frantically ended Core. Same player character
(Matt Rorie’s) Storm of Zehir is a standalone game set some time after Core/Mask and includes some of the same characters.
Mysteries of Westgate is a standalone from Ossian but, people say you are much better off starting off with a stronger character. My memory is crap so I’ll assume that is true.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 3 days ago
Thank you! I guess the question is, is sitting through 100 hours of mediocre main campaign worth it to get to Mask? My guess is probably yes, but that knowledge will likely end up de-prioritizing the game on my backlog.
Thanks a lot for the rundown! Are the other two expansions any good?
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
If you were to ask me… sweet Eothas, 15 years ago? Yes
Now? … Probably not? We had a solid decade or so of a CRPG resurgence and now have studios like Owlcat that just hit it out of the park near constantly. Like… for as half baked as Kingmaker was… eating around the raw spots is some damned good food and the penultimate dungeon (and then the endgame if you don’t dialogue out) is the violent illness that follows eating the “cooked bits” around raw food. And Wrath and Rogue Trader are “no notes” games as far as I am concerned. And Obsidian’s Pillars 1 and 2 touch on many of the same concepts as Mask but are both very solid games all the way through. Same with Larian for DOS2 (less so 1) and BG3.
But if you’ve played through most of those? Core is apparently 60 hours (I don’t believe that but this was also 20-ish years ago). And the good moments are really good. They are just surrounded by endless monotony, mediocre encounter design, and broken mechnaics because… Obsidian. Whereas Mask is a REALLY solid 15 hour experience that is only kinda broken.
Storm… I wouldn’t bother. Even if you asked me when it was new. And I actually love Ossian (mostly because they collaborate with Luke Scull who is a deeply underrated author and whose AL series of modules were awesome) but all I remember is that Westgate was weaker than Daggerford.
PSA: If you play ANY of the Pathfinder CRPGs? Get blind fight ASAP. And make sure every arcane caster has a few charges of Glitterdust at any moment.
Coelacanth@feddit.nu 3 days ago
Good to know again, thank you! I played through Kingmaker last winter and your description is pretty spot on. There were parts of it that were great, parts of which that were not, and parts of it that were downright awful. And particularly the latter parts really soured me on it, and made me super reluctant to play Wrath of the Righteous. If that is Owlcat’s idea of high level play I don’t really want an epic adventure from them.
I’ve played Divinity 1&2 and BG3, but I’m less high on Larian than everyone else these days. They’re fine games and fun to play but Larian’s style of writing isn’t my jam and I also think BG3 has a lot of problems that get kind of glossed over.
I missed Pillars 1, so I guess that is on some sort of to-do list. I played about half of Pillars 2 but got bored and never picked it back up.
I had Blind Fight on every single party member and that final bit of the game was still a hellish slog that made actively detest Owlcat.