Comment on Well whenever you notice something like *that*, a wizard did it

• exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Science is a process for learning knowledge, not a set of known facts (or theories/conjectures/hypotheses/etc.).

  Phlogiston theory was science. But ultimately it fell apart when the observations made it untenable.

  A belief in luminiferous aether was also science. It was disproved over time, and it took decades from the Michelson-Morley experiment to design robust enough studies and experiments to prove that the speed of light was the same regardless of Earth’s relative velocity.

  Plate tectonics wasn’t widely accepted until we had the tools to measure continental drift.

  So merely believing in something not provable doesn’t make something not science. No, science has a bunch of unknowns at any given time, and testing different ideas can be difficult to actually do.

  Hell, there are a lot of mathematical conjectures that are believed to be true but not proven. Might never be proven, either. But mathematics is still a rational, scientific discipline.

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  • HazyHerbivore@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Weird you’d call ideas that long predate rationalism and the scientific method science

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    • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Predate rationalism? Modern rationalism and the scientific method came up in the 16th and 17th centuries, and was built on ancient foundations.

      Phlogiston theory was developed in the 17th century, and took about 100 years to gather the evidence to make it infeasible, after the discovery of oxygen.

      Luminiferous aether was disproved beginning in the late 19th century and the nail in the coffin happened by the early 20th, when Einstein’s theories really started taking off.

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      • HazyHerbivore@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The aether idea was floating around since the ancient Greeks lol

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