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BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 year agoEnlighten me, what similar situations are happening with Israel and Palestine that makes this comparison relevant? The politics and history around slavery in the US are completely different than this
man_in_space@kbin.social 1 year ago
Whites voted to support (wanted) an avowedly racist system. Whites brutalized Blacks—beating them, maiming them, raping them, killing them. War came calling.
Palestinians vote to support (want) an avowedly racist system. Palestinians are brutalizing Jews (and others who happen to be there)—beating them, maiming them, raping them, killing them. War comes calling.
In both cases, the people voted according to their views and values.
It should be noted that even after the War (and we can blame the Republicans for this, the deal that got Rutherford B. Hayes into office ended Reconstruction) these things continued. The KKK is still alive and kicking today. The Union was not without sin in this.
You don’t appease antisemites. Apparently the lesson didn’t stick last time.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 year ago
Did the South have left-wing, secular parties with popular support that wanted abolition? Did the north actively suppress these parties while funding a group of religious extremists to do their dirty work and then turn on them when the arrangement wasn’t convenient to them? Was the north violently oppressing the south for decades before the civil war? Did the north interfere in the elections that lead to the religious extremists gaining control of the south? Are the results of that election hotly contested to this day?
man_in_space@kbin.social 1 year ago
Who do you think ran the Underground Railroad? Harriet Tubman wasn’t alone.
More to the point, the existence of anti-slavery actors in the South did not remove the basis for engaging them in battle.
I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised that in the Third Millennium AD people will still come to the defense of terrorists, but here we are.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 1 year ago
You’ve just made it even clearer that this comparison doesn’t add up. The underground railroad was legitimized with the fugitive slave act. The more you try to force this comparison, the more obvious it becomes you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about. The US civil war and the problems with Israel and Palestine have little in common. Support for Palestine isn’t support for Hamas. Hamas barely won the election that you’re hinging your braindead takes on, the PLO and fatah still exist and would be much better options than Hamas, and between the two of them have more popular support among the people of Palestine. Israel is a fascist, apartheid state with dubious claims to the territory they occupy. They hide behind Judaism to justify their war crimes and actively promote antisemitism to conflate support for Palestine with said antisemitism. You’re falling for their propaganda hook, line, and sinker.