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crt0o@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Race and religion are fundamentally different, one is a trait you’re born with that you have no control over, the other is a (potentially harmful) ideology, which you have the power to distance yourself from. I’m sick of this “you need to respect everyone’s religion” bullshit. No, I cannot respect an ideology which promotes stoning gays, and anyone who does is a moron.

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Stamets@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

the other is a (potentially harmful) ideology, which you have the power to distance yourself from.

Tell that to every gay muslim who can’t speak out.

It’s so frustrating constantly seeing people use the “Muslims stoning gay men to death” thing while never thinking about those gay men other than as a fucking scapegoat.

As for your shit about one is a trait you’re born with that you have no control over… You think that doesn’t apply to religion? You think that a dude born in the middle of Saudi Arabia is going to get a say on what religion he grows up under?

Yes. Religion has problems. Many fucking problems. But handwaving it away as something that you have no control over is a minimization of reality and a fundamental demonstration that you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.

Don’t use us gay folk as an example for your hatred when you don’t care about the gay folks INSIDE of that group. Things are not as black and white as you want to believe that they are.

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- crt0o@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Well yes, the whole situation is complicated, I don’t advocate hatred towards religious people, I just think that religion should be criticised like any other ideology, and eventually left behind by society. I think that every person should have the privilege of growing up in a society that isn’t hateful and given the kind of education that would allow them to form their own beliefs, not just blindly inherit them. Sadly we are still far from that.
  
  I used that as an example because it was the first thing that came to mind, I could have used any of the other million religious beliefs I disagree with, this isn’t about people, it’s about ideas
  
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  - Stamets@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    It isn’t complicated.
    
    I responded to a dude who was being openly bigoted and you responded in such a way to say “No, I’m allowed to be bigoted because bigoted reasoning.”
    
    It is as simple as the fact that you are a bigot.
    
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    crt0o@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    This basically reduces to some paradox of tolerance type shit, I’m a bigot because I discriminate against bigotry? Ok.
    
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