Comment on agi graph slop, wtf does goverment collapse have to do with ai?
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 days agoThe existence of black holes has a functional purpose in physics, the existence of consciousness only has one to our subjective experience, and not one to our capabilities.
yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 4 days ago
These have been listed repeatedly: love, think, understand, contemplate, discover, aspire, lead, philosophize, etc.
There are, in fact, very few interesting things that a non-thinking entity can do. It can make toast. It can do calculations. It can design highways. It can cure cancer. It can probably fold clothes. None of this shit is particularly exciting. Just more machines doing what they’re told. We want a machine that can tell us what to do, instead. That’s AGI. No such machine can exist, at least according to our current understanding of mathematical logic, theoretical computer science, and human cognition.
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 4 days ago
these are not tasks except maybe philosophize and discover, which even current models can do… discovery has also been done by current models.
deepmind.google/…/alphaevolve-a-gemini-powered-co…
I said a task, not a feeling, a task is a manipulation of the world to achieve a goal, not something vague and undefinable like love.
theres no such thing, there’s no objective right answer to this in the first place, it’s not like a conscious being we know of can do this, why would a conscious machine be able to? This is just you asking the impossible, consciousness would not help even the tiniest bit with this problem. you have to say “what to do to achieve x” for it to have meaning, which these machines could do without solving the hard problem of consciousness at all.
yet again you fail to name one valuable aspect of solving consciousness.