Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Your question assumes a disconnect between labor and AI systems. AI is built on mounds of cheap labor already. It’s going to have to replace things like mines and miners and a TON of labor all the way up the chain (including data center upkeep). It we can do that and build this thing capable manufacturing the autonomous robots that replace human labor, then humans would be in a pretty good place technology wise to defend ourselves. We’re also talking like many many many years in the future when we could do this. We’re far more likely to run out of resources and be forced to be a multi planet species to seek out this dream.
mrpres@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Thats why I mention no timeframe, my question is based on whenever the conditions I mention are met, not about how things are today which isnt nearly any good to get to that point
Maybe but it would be hubris to assume if an advanced civilization capable to travel to other planets would be totally defenseless from us
Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think a lot of this is kinda what I’m getting at too — it’s such a far fetched question, that it almost doesn’t matter. We are making so many assumptions (since this is not something remotely feasible at the moment) that it’s all completely up on the air.
I think maybe a different question might be: is there EVER a point where we are able to defend from an alien invasion. Which I’m not really sure what that answer would be. I think it’s not a technology question, but more of a political one since it would require a massive solidarity movement to unite.
mrpres@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
its not about whether this will ever happen which if it does i doubt it will be in our lifetime but more of a thought experiment of how such situation would go down
thats a good interesting question but a very different one
Thwompthwomp@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I’m enjoying thinking about it, but I just don’t understand the constraints you are interested in, or assuming. If all human labor is replaced, then I’m already envisioning what is in essence an entirely different planet. Resources would be gone, politics are reorganized around supporting and building this AI takeover, and then re-aligned again once there is free time. I’m thinking of what is the cost of that — are we spread out on multiple planets, and on earth no one works? Is it some dystopian earth with the humans left there having nothing to do? Is it a utopian future, where humans have all the free time in the world, and we had did figure out how to solve the resource problem. I’m not trying to deflect your question or not answer, I’m actually really trying to answer it and consider things but see an AI takeover completely tied up in a whole host of other issues. I’ll read through the other comments and see what others are thinking. Thanks for the thought-game for this Sunday though :)