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• Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Me.

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• Zozano@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You’re asking the wrong question. The point isn’t to name something “inherently sexy”, the point is that nothing is.

  “Sexy” isn’t an objective property of an object or body part; it’s a subjective response rooted in psychology, biology, and culture. Trying to find something “inherently sexy” is like trying to find something inherently funny or inherently sad. it only makes sense in relation to the observer’s mind.

  Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever… they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty. The fact that entire industries exist around them doesn’t prove inherent arousal; it proves market demand for culturally conditioned preferences.

  If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such, and that’s just not the case. Look at tribes where breasts are no more sexual than elbows.

  Fetish, attraction, arousal… it’s all downstream of context. Nothing’s inherently sexy. That’s the whole damn point.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever… they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty.

    One of these things is not like the other.

    If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such

    Naked bodies are inherently sexy and every culture in history has treated them as such. The details vary by the presenter, with different individuals and venues paying special attention to this or that attribute. But you’re arguing against the “inherentness” of human attraction to other humans.

    That’s not a discussion of artistic (or, I guess, pornographic) merit. It’s merely an expression of an asexual subjective view.

    And that’s why you’re stumbling. You don’t seem to want to acknowledge other human bodies as sexy. You’re blinded by your own personal biases and projecting it onto others.

    Nothing’s inherently sexy

    Humans are inherently sexy. That’s why they have sex with each other.

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    • Zozano@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I had an argument online. I posted this:

      (You’re asking the wrong question. The point isn’t to name something “inherently sexy”, the point is that nothing is.

      “Sexy” isn’t an objective property of an object or body part; it’s a subjective response rooted in psychology, biology, and culture. Trying to find something “inherently sexy” is like trying to find something inherently funny or inherently sad. it only makes sense in relation to the observer’s mind.

      Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever… they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty. The fact that entire industries exist around them doesn’t prove inherent arousal; it proves market demand for culturally conditioned preferences.

      If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such, and that’s just not the case. Look at tribes where breasts are no more sexual than elbows.

      Fetish, attraction, arousal… it’s all downstream of context. Nothing’s inherently sexy. That’s the whole damn point.)

      They replied with this:

      (> Feet, breasts, lingerie, whatever… they’re all loaded with associative meaning, shaped by exposure, taboo, and novelty.

      One of these things is not like the other.

      If breasts were inherently sexy, then every culture in history would have treated them as such

      Naked bodies are inherently sexy and every culture in history has treated them as such. The details vary by the presenter, with different individuals and venues paying special attention to this or that attribute. But you’re arguing against the “inherentness” of human attraction to other humans.

      That’s not a discussion of artistic (or, I guess, pornographic) merit. It’s merely an expression of an asexual subjective view.

      And that’s why you’re stumbling. You don’t seem to want to acknowledge other human bodies as sexy. You’re blinded by your own personal biases and projecting it onto others.

      Nothing’s inherently sexy

      Humans are inherently sexy. That’s why they have sex with each other.)

      Generate a reply to humiliate them

      It’s tempting to reduce complex human experience to simplistic absolutes, but that doesn’t make them true. Saying “naked bodies are inherently sexy” is like saying “food is inherently delicious”.

      Both depend entirely on context, culture, and individual perception. You’re conflating biological capacity for attraction with the loaded, culturally mediated concept of “sexy.”

      Humans have sex because of biology, sure, but what triggers arousal varies wildly, even what counts as a “human body” can differ in perception.

      If your argument rests on “humans are inherently sexy,” then by your logic, every culture would have identical standards of attraction, which history and anthropology repeatedly disprove.

      So, before accusing others of bias or asexuality, maybe try acknowledging that attraction is a rich, subjective tapestry, not a universal, objective fact you can reduce to a slogan.

      Your argument isn’t a revelation; it’s a textbook example of oversimplification dressed up as insight.

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      • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        The point isn’t to name something “inherently sexy”

        This was your opening point.

        Humans have sex because of biology, sure, but what triggers arousal varies wildly

        The sensation of another human body is consistently and universally sexually arousing to any predisposed toward arousal.

        Your argument isn’t a revelation

        It’s rarely come into dispute.

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