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gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I have a fundamental question.

labor should unite instead of letting business idiots take most of the value they create.

In case you actually manage to do that, and the factories run in fact so well that a million workers are enough to provide the whole US with all the food and consumer articles they need.

Then what do the other 331 million USians do? They would not have a job and therefore no source of income. They would revolt and a civil war would erupt? How would you deal with that?

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jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
Basic income seems like an obvious solution.

Many people would pursue happy lives. Do some art. Do some gardening.

You’d also want to have like public housing or something so you don’t have parasitic landlords and homelessness.

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- gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  
  Basic income seems like an obvious solution.
  
  ok i agree to this.
  
  But then i do wonder, why take the extra detour over “labor should unite instead of letting business idiots take most of the value they create”? Why not just introduce UBI immediately?
  
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  - njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Cuz you can’t introduce Ubi as long as there is a parasitic capitalist class controlling all the wealth.
    
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    gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    which is why we need a wealth tax.
    
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  - jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    There’s still going to be production, and I don’t think we should continue with the capitalist class extracting value and making bad decisions
    
    If you introduce basic income without addressing that, you’ll still have all the enshittification
    
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