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theangriestbird@beehaw.org 3 weeks agohave you swung a melee weapon before in real life, like maybe a baseball bat? Does swinging the bat happen instantaneously, or do you have to wind up the swing for momentum? Would a bigger, heavier bat be faster or slower to swing?
Souls games have slow melee attacks compared to something like Devil May Cry, but the speed is intended to be more realistic compared to those kinds of speedy action games. Just apply real life logic to it, and it should make more sense. If the weapon you are using is too slow for you, find a smaller, lighter one that would be easier to swing in real life. If starting out as a regular dude and then becoming more powerful is not appealing to you, or if realistic fights are not exciting to you, then maybe the Souls games just aren’t your bag.
Sas@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
That is a really odd comparison because in real life, even 2 handed longswords are very fast and souls like games slow them down a lot. They are not meant for realism at all.
theangriestbird@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
in souls, the 2-handed longswords that are a realistic size are fast when you wield them in 2-handed mode. the ones that are slow are anime sized, so they are reasonably slower
t3rmit3@beehaw.org 3 weeks ago
Every time I see someone say that most people haven’t swung a sword/ shot a gun/ been in a fight/ been in an accident, etc, I always wonder if I’m the one in the bubble or if they are.
theangriestbird@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
it’s very comfy here in my bubble and i have no problems with that
Sas@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
I still disagree. I’ve done longsword fighting for multiple years and in the time a souls character does two hits with a bastard sword i probably do about 6 and that’s fine. Souls games are designed so that you can react to attacks and not for realism. A falchion in souls is about as fast as a longsword meant for 2 handed irl if not still a bit slower
theangriestbird@beehaw.org 2 weeks ago
interesting. I was watching some videos comparing the two yesterday, and honestly i came away still feeling like Souls combat speed is fairly realistic. This bloke makes fair points about the true practicality of a huge greatsword, and swings at a speed that is maybe two swings per second. A DS1 claymore has similar swing speed, particularly in two-handed mode. The DS1 Zweihander is right on that line between “realistically-sized” and “anime-size”, and I would agree that they make that thing look heavier than a real zwei.
On the flip side, the longsword is barely any faster than the claymore, so I could see that feeling unrealistic. I guess my brain just likes to rationalize that sort of thing away, like “yeah that seems slow but maybe I would fight carefully like that too if I was fighting multiple people that were actually trying to actually kill me”. Do you disagree with that? Do you feel like you would still swing a longsword at two or three swings a second if you were in a life-or-death fight?