Comment on Is it weird to sometimes wonder wether everything you know is wrong?
naught101@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No way, that’s just science, baby!
I think those questions need to be followed through with a chain of reasoning and questions, not denial. There’s usually lots of options.
So for that “gay people are deviants” question, a “no they aren’t” answer isn’t helpful, because it’s faith based, which leads to a shutdown of thinking and curiosity.
Another line might be: if they are, then does that mean that the tens or hundreds of other animal species with documented existence of homosexuality are also deviants? Can an animal be a deviant? Seems unlikely… Does that mean that maybe deviance is a dodgy concept? What does it actually mean? Does it mean a thing is fundamentally bad, or does it just mean that it doesn’t fit with a particular value system? If that’s the case, and I personally know a bunch of gay people who are really lovely people, is it possible that it’s the value system that’s the problem, not the gay people?
There’s usually plenty of other chains of thought that will get you to a place like this. Doing this kind of thought exploration also means that when you come up against someone making that argument in public, then you have a better idea where you stand, and you can potentially engage constructively with them, if they seem open to it.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 week ago
The word deviant doesn’t really mean anything, as far as science is concerned.
So no objectively Gay people are not deviance since morality is a human construct(or if so that is a philosophical question).
The best way I could rewrite this question is
A. Are we evolutionarily predisposed to find people with alternative* sexual preferences distasteful or unpleasant.?
B. Are alternative* sexual preferences evolutionarily harmful to society?
C. Are alternative* sexual preferences harmful to one’s own evolutionary path?
D. If the above statements are true, will the psychological and societal be so detrimental on the individual so much that it is necessarily better to engage in alternative* sexual desires?
*alternative in this context meaning anything outside of a heterosexual relationship, however the questions can be narrowed down to what ever sexual preferences you are inquiring about.
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I will not offer my own opinion about this, nor will I even present any actual science but I will say this, I don’t think it is as black and white as you might assume.
naught101@lemmy.world 6 days ago
I wasn’t suggesting anything was black and white. I was just giving an example of a chain of thought. OP is free to come up with their own chains of thought.