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3abas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

The root cause of the problem IS the mega-corp fast food chain that sells us expensive shitty unhealthy food and pays slave wages to its labor force that it treats like annoying obstacles and constantly threatening to automate away. They take away jobs from real restaurants too, until they shut down, and all you have left is fucking McDonald’s.

Dismissing that people work there out of desperation is out of touch, but to disagree with “let fastfood restaurants go bankrupt” is where the REAL BIG brains are at.

Why can’t we just have a discussion without insults. These corporations are the problem, convincing them to pay you more until they automate you away is not a solution, the solution IS for them to be bankrupt.

I also don’t eat there, and think it’s morally outrageous to give them any profit that helps them achieve the distopian future they’re working so hard towards.

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CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

Why can’t we just have a discussion without insults

Let’s be honest, “I don’t eat fast food so they should be allowed to pay slave wages” isn’t really a compelling discussion with nuanced talking points.

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- 3abas@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  But they didn’t say that, they said the opposite… They’re saying they’d rather not support this awful business, and would rather watch it die so it can be replaced with real jobs that people can live off of. That’s how I interpreted it anyway.
  
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  - CileTheSane@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    would rather watch it die so it can be replaced with real jobs that people can live off of
    
    A faster way to do that: minimum wage laws that require people are paid a wage they can live off of.
    
    The’ve tried the whole “let’s not pass laws to increase minimum wage, people will just not take jobs that don’t pay enough” for decades. Jobs still exist that pay below poverty (minimum wage).
    
    If we agree that what they are doing is garbage and shouldn’t be able to exist, why are they arguing against doing something that would prevent it from existing?
    
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XnxCuX@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
Close. The issue is corporate socialism

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thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
there ya go. here’s a guy/gal who understands the issues.

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