Marxist-Leninist
but I’m not a “State Capitalist”
So you’re a revisionist.
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Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 hours agoI’m a Communist, specifically a Marxist-Leninist. I’m not an Anarchist, but I’m not a “State Capitalist” either. I advocate for gradually building towards a fully publicly owned and planned global economy along democratic lines, ie Marx’s conception of Communism.
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Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 hours ago
drag refers to any Socialist system with a state as “State Capitalist,” which is a misnomer I reject. I support the NEP and I support the PRC’s Socialist Market Economy, I support Cuba, Vietnam, etc, but drag in particular is saying even a fully publicly owned economy is “state capitalist” if it has a government.
barsoap@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
Well it certainly is capitalist if it’s not democratic. You can have public ownership and worker control, or you can have public ownership and a dictatorship of people who are not workers. Like, bureaucrats, apparatchik, the nomenclatura, etc. Or the army. Or whoever who’s not workers.
As such drag might operate under the Anarchist definition of state (which I, as an Anarchist, can’t stand, because in <currentyear> it just causes pointless misunderstandings), which more or less bogs down to “hierarchical control”, not “organisational structure of society”. The latter definition is something perfectly neutral, the former is the face of evil itself.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
For drag, any state running production is Capitalist. They denounce the PRC, USSR, Cuba, etc as Capitalist, despite robust democratic control.
Further, administrators of public property do not constitute a distinct class, just as managers within a company are not a distinct class from the workers. There exists intra-class hierarchy and inter-class hierarchy, and these are not the same.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 17 hours ago
You want a “socialist” revolution, and would turn your nose up at a communist revolution creating communism immediately. Drag thinks you have to support the idea of a communist revolution in order to be a communist. Unless you already live in communism.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
I wouldn’t turn my nose up if the creation of a fully publicly owned and planned global economy along democratic lines was possible to do immediately. It isn’t, so I don’t “support” that just like I don’t “support” unicorns.
Now, I’m sure you’re actually using Communism to speak of Anarchist-style Communism, but I’m not an Anarchist, I’m a Marxist, I want Marx’s conception of Communism, not the Anarchist conception.
dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 17 hours ago
And the fact that you don’t want the anarchists to win is why we say you have no belief in left unity and aren’t a leftist. We ancoms, syndicalists, soulists, mutualists, trade unionists, anarcho-pacifists, transhumanists, market socialists, egoists, and so on will sit over here in our big leftism tent and actually get work done while you guys argue about theory and try to fracture the movement apart.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 17 hours ago
I’m all for Left-Unity, and believe Leftists can all work together. Discussing correct theory and practice is important, just like the work Leftist groups like PSL, the PFLP, and more are accomplishing, as well as Socialist states like Cuba and the PRC. I don’t think I’ve ever said I don’t believe in Left-Unity, and I’ve never once said Anarchists aren’t Leftists, just that I myself am a Marxist, not an Anarchist.