You’re right in that individual examples prove nothing, but the evidence suggests something larger at play.
I’ve provided examples of individual and institutional homophobia - you’ve failed to even suggest evidence of the former. I would not deny that individual “left wingers” (idk if you distinguish between leftists and liberals in the same way I do) that are homophobic - but I don’t think I’ve seen any evidence that progressive ideologies are inherently homophobic. Feel free to provide some evidence though!
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 5 days ago
But your “evidence” isn’t indicative of all “right-wingers”. It’s some small study of “homophobes”. Many on the left are homophobes, seemingly more and more these days as “trans rights” and gay rights don’t mix very well.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Boo-boo, I’m a trans man. Telling me that being trans is homophobic is not the move.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
I didn’t tell you that, but good try.
I said that many of the “trans rights” and trans ideologies are distinctly anti-gay, due to what I pointed out - “genital preferences” and so on.
Gay = Same SEX attraction. Nothing else. Gender plays no part in it. No matter what gender you identify as, if you are a FEMALE a gay man will not be attracted to you. Saying that if they AREN’T attracted to you makes them transphobic is homophobic.
andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Idk, the guys blowing up my phone on Grindr right now seem pretty attracted. Chubby bears with hella body hair are a prime currency in the gay world, let me tell you.
Like, you know one believes that “trans people are conversion therapy” or “genital preferences” shit IRL right? Most people are ya know, normal. Everyone has preferences for who they feel like dating, whatever.
Some gay guys haven’t been interested because of my equipment; other guys have been very eager; most are in the middle. I don’t share dick pics without consent, but I can tell you my little soldier is pretty impressive when he stands for attention.
Like again, you’ve wriggled your way so far away from even trying to make a point. See, at least TERFs can be convincing with the claims of being feminists. This is such a transparent ass pull; you don’t actually give a shit about homophobia.
Objection@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
Classic right wing “divide and conquer” tactics, try to drive a wedge between trans and gay people, pick off the trans people first, then come for the gays next. This nonsense is exactly why the LGBT acronym was made in the first place, because we (the vast majority of us, anyway) stand together in solidarity and reject this idiotic nonsense.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 4 days ago
Completely wrong.
Gay is same sex attraction. Nothing at all to do with gender and especially not gender identity.
Trans people and advocates call gay men who won’t date a trans man (a female) “bigots” and “transphobes”. They say that a male can be a lesbian, and if a lesbian won’t suck a “female penis” she is transphobic and a bigot. That’s homophobia, and like I said, it is rife in the TQ community.
Gay rights and trans rights are not compatible. One is based on sexual attraction, one is based on “gender identity”, the latter of which tries to force the former to not exist.
Objection@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
Blah blah blah. The Nazis started by coming after trans people too, gay people wound up in camps all the same. Divide and conquer, you’re not as clever with this BS as you think.