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x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

• Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

  The only time I’ve seen someone promote Odysee it was someone who couldn’t say what they wanted on YouTube because it was too racist. So I’m inclined to see Odysee as being to YouTube what Voat was to Reddit.

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  • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

    Well freedom always goes both ways. But Odysee has ACTUAL blocking capabilities (where YouTube has something dirty) and most of the right wing nutjobs stay in their own categories. The lack of dopamine enslaving algorithm also helps a lot as I just see what I consciously choose to see. So even though the nutjobs do have a platform, that same freedom also applies to everybody else and you don’t really notice them.

    Odysee is a bit slow nowadays because automatic YouTube channel mirroring is blocked because of YouTube’s proxy bullshit. But besides that and a few nutjobs it really works very nice.

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    • Zagorath@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

      Well freedom always goes both ways

      I don’t agree. The paradox of tolerance, or if you prefer, the Nazi Bar allegory, tells us that in order for genuinely good spaces to exist, they need to be strict about removing bigots. Otherwise quickly, only bigots will feel welcome, and non-bigots will be forced out of the platform.

      “Freedom goes both ways” only works if you exclusively look at freedom as a negative thing. Freedom from moderation. Instead of, as you should, acknowledging that it must also entail freedom to be safe from harassment and bigotry.

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      • x00z@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

        Yes I am aware. The original way Odysee works is on the LBRY blockchain for metadata, with a peer to peer network of video storage. Odysee is now switching their technology, but the LBRY blockchain was specifically made against any sort of censorship.

        Odysee does however handle their own blocklists of videos, allowing them to control the content on their platform. Have a look at #8 of their community guidelines: help.odysee.tv/communityguidelines/

        The racism you talk about was probably just awful opinions but did not really incite hatred or violence:

        Content or posts that incite hatred or violence towards a particular group or person(s)

        I absolutely hate the far right and their racist extremist views, but Odysee is an amazing platform.

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