Iâm not offering you advice on how to be a vegan. I have no experience with being a vegan, so I wouldnât be qualified.
I do, however, have a lot of experience with not acting like an insufferable zealot with a persecution complex.
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dx1@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨year⊠agoI am not accepting non-vegansâ opinions on how to be a better vegan at this time. I will keep your comments on file.
Iâm not offering you advice on how to be a vegan. I have no experience with being a vegan, so I wouldnât be qualified.
I do, however, have a lot of experience with not acting like an insufferable zealot with a persecution complex.
Yes, this is the typical reaction people have to vegans saying ANYTHING. It is not fun for us to live our entire lives prohibited from ever being able to say what WE THINK.
Fun fact: like most people, Iâm pretty damn ridiculous at times. This means that I sometimes am the object of criticism and/or ridicule. You and I have that in common.
Hereâs the difference, though: I donât go out of my way to play the persecuted martyr.
Not eating meat is a perfectly reasonable personal decision. Not using any animal products of any kind sounds difficult to the point of constant exhaustion to me personally, but if thatâs what makes you happy, then thatâs good.
Just like the bad kind of religious person though, youâre preaching that everyone who doesnât make the same choice is wrong and should be ashamed of themselves. While simultaneously acting like everyoneâs out to get you no matter what you say and do. Thatâs not not reasonable.
I am not âgoing out of my way to play the persecuted martyrâ, I opened the Lemmy home page and âpost trashing vegansâ was post #3. I thought I left this shit behind when I left reddit, but now itâs here too.
Not using animal products is not exhausting. Iâve done it for a decade and itâs a remarkably easy change where 99% of the difficulty comes from the wider society being hostile to it.
It is an ethical position based on an actual reality of animal agriculture causing vast suffering that we have chosen to opt out of supporting. It is absolutely reasonable and selfless to advocate for the rights of others at a minor, negligible personal sacrifice. It is not a sign of a need to shame others, a need to be a martyr, or any other personality defect that youâre going to project on vegans based on a stereotype despite knowing NOTHING about any of us as individuals. Nobody is trying to make you âfeel ashamedâ, we are pointing out objective facts about how the animal ag industry causes harm to animals and people like you, like youâre doing in this comment right here, launch into this whole frigging diatribe about how vegans are shaming you and judging you and have a god complex and should just shut up and go back into their corners, because god forbid anyone should ever suggest that anything youâre doing is less than perfectly ethical.
This is a typical reaction to people like you not vegans vegetarians or other diets or food fads I donât shit on someone because they like pink sauce I shit on someone based on the character and personality
Itâs not about just food preferences, itâs about right and wrong.
How would you be a better vegan? Is there a competitive vegan league? Is there a cash prize that goes out to whoever can anthropomorphize animals the most in dogshit ads? Because if so, I think making an Islamic state beheading video but with chickens shouting âDeath to KFC!â Would really sell veganism to the American audience. Or maybe we could settle for annoying shitposters on a meme community. Both have an equal chance of working (0%)
If petah made an Islamic beheading video with chickens shouting death to kfc I would immediately reconsider my dietary choices
He replied to me acting like I was at fault for defending myself. IDK why youâre going on this tangent of all the perceived slights vegans have done against you by speaking their minds.
See thatâs interesting, when I tried to respectfully speak my mind on the vegan community in lemmy they just banned me after one comment, but exuse me for laughing at vegans whenever they leave their walled gardens and cry when nobody on the lemmy shitposting community wants to hear from the vegan community. You talk up and down about intellect and facts, but whenever I actually engage with vegans they have (90% of the time) just deleted or banned any criticism. That may or may not be you, but when you talk about vegans as a whole being this âoppressed communityâ unable to speak their mind, itâs just funny to me.
I have a pretty good sense you posted something inflammatory and obnoxious in a vegan community, and frankly that doesnât excuse you being hostile to vegans elsewhere.
thorbot@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨year⊠ago
Great! Iâll file that away under âNâ: Nobody Fucking Cares.
dx1@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨year⊠ago
Awesome. Thanks for helping make Lemmy a negative place inhospitable to differing viewpoints!
ShitOnABrick@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨year⊠ago
Your doing a great job of that already
dx1@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨year⊠ago
Youâre literally posting anti-vegan shit, then vegans come into the replies and âoh no Iâm being attackedâ. GTFO of here with that bullshit.
thorbot@lemmy.world â¨1⊠â¨year⊠ago
Happy to help!