Comment on Bethesda Gifts Everybody in the Skyblivion Mod Team a Copy of Oblivion Remastered

• hydroxycotton@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “We beat you to it bitches. And while you’ve spent 9 years on your labor of love and and made nothing from it, we will make tens of millions. Here’s a couple copies of our shittily optimizer remaster just to rub it in :)”

  Sincerely Todd

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  • simple@lemm.ee ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah they spent years working on a remaster just to dunk on a small mod team. Next time, Bethesda should ask for fan’s permission to work on the franchise they literally own! ~/s~

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah they spent years working on a remaster just to dunk on a small mod team.

      Yes, that literally is what they did.

      If Skyblivion had releases first, even for free, far more people would be going… wait, why would I pay for yet another Bethesda remaster… when a free one already exists?

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  • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Isn’t that just unnecessarily cynical. Can’t Bethesda appreciate what the Skyblivion people are doing, knowing that they’ll appreciate the gesture?

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Oh, well, ‘Bethesda apprectiating what the Skyblivion people are doing’ would look something like hiring the mod team to complete their work in house, as an actual official product.

      … So that they could be, you know, paid for their passionate work.

      Passion doesn’t pay bills.

      Does… did everyone just now not remember how that was a thing that used to happen?

      Particularly with Valve, back in the late 90s through 00’s?

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      • ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I’m just saying they could appreciate something in a “hey that’s pretty cool” way, and at the same time have no interest in them actually being part of Bethesda itself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  • Gibibit@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Its kind of ironic that all you’re thinking about is money while these modders are doing it for the love of the craft. Sure everyone would love to see a paid release of Skyblion on Steam like Valve allowed with Black Mesa, but the modders are building this regardless.

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Bethseda certainly wouldn’t love to see that, they’d sue them into… ahem, well, Oblivion, if they tried.

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  • _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s ironic that you’re looking at this from the same angle that you accuse Bethesda of. The Skyblivion team didn’t start this “labor of love”, as you correctly put it, to earn money. Yet all you can think about is how much money you think they’re missing out on. It really shows what your values in life are.

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    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      … They call it a labor of love, without the stated goal of making money…

      Because if their goal was to make money, Bethesda would sue them into poverty induced early graves.

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  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yep, its a massive corpo style flex, ‘kill them with mandated kindness’ type of move, grin for the cameras as we demean you.

    The Skyblivion devs are almost certainly in mental shambles right now, but they have to put on the happy face.

    Anyone who doesn’t understand this has either never worked in software, or for a large corp, or both.

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    • doctorfail@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean: 1.) It’s Bethesda’s IP 2) The “remaster” was not just a paint job. That took a whole damn team, a very hard working team, to rebuild the game in UE5. 3) Skyblivion will probably continue development despite it.

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      • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        None of that changes or even addresses what I said in the comment you are replying to.

        Yes, a corpo flex often involves throwing a ton of money and manpower at something…

        Yes, Skyblivion development will probably continue… doesn’t change the fact that Bethesda just did a giant corpo flex on them.

        The… whole … point of a corpo flex … is to showcase that you have a disproportionate amount of legal and monetary power, and you can use that to humiliate upstarts.

        Have… you never worked in a large corp? Or… studied how they make business decisions?

        Have you ever worked in software development?

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• ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It goes against the corpo nature to do something that doesn’t earn them money. Their hierarchy of needs has only one point: income. Even this serves them in some way, even if it’s not apparent.

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  • redhorsejacket@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Okay? Again, who are you serving by choosing this specific forum to shout that messaging? I know you aren’t OP, so consider that the royal “you”.

    It’s just tiresome is all, and I’m on the “boo, capitalism” side of things. It’s like the folks who turn every thread tangentially related to Microsoft into a Linux advertisement. Or the involuntary ejaculation of a vegetarian when the subject of diet comes up. Like, yes, these folks are probably correct about the things they are saying; you’re never going to be wrong to consider the angle being worked by a corp. However, it’s infantilizing to suggest that people are unaware that a corporation wants their money. That’s a given, and without additional commentary, it’s a positively useless statement that only serves to make people tune out the messaging, even in contexts where it IS desirable to bring it up (such as when a company is doing shady shit in pursuit of your money). Releasing a mediocre graphical remaster of a title that people have nostalgia for hardly qualifies as “shady shit” in my book. Lazy, sure, but not shady.

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