Comment on Keir Starmer does not believe trans women are women, No 10 says

• flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  This is not huge. He is literally saying what the law says, which is exactly what you expect a prime minister to do.

  Damn, if only the PM had the power to get the law changed.

  The PM declined to repeat his previous statement “transwomen are women,” instead asserting: “A woman is an adult female - the court has made that absolutely clear.”

  This is transphobia, seriously listen to him weasel out of it. He was asked if trans woman were women in general, not specifically for the purposes of the Equalities Act.

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  • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    A woman is an adult female. A transwoman is an adult female who used to be male. They are different things. You can admit that and still believe that transwomen should be treated with dignity like anyone else.

    Personally I don’t give a shit what bathroom people use or what they want to be referred to. I’ll go along with whatever… But a woman and a transwoman are different things. Always have been and always will be, no matter what the law states.

    Kier’s words are still not transphobia. There is no fear, dislike, prejudice, discrimination, harassment, or violence in his statement. 

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    • flamingos@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Should a transwoman have the same rights and respect as a woman? Absolutely. Are they the same? No, they are not.

      ‘As a woman’, a trans woman is a woman, different from a cis woman sure, but still a woman. This statement is fairly absurd if you substitute trans with another adjective, like is a blonde woman different from a woman?

      Kier’s words are still not transphobia. There is no fear, dislike, prejudice, discrimination, harassment, or violence in his statement.

      The prejudice is denying the legitimacy of trans women as women. ‘Adult human female’ is a dog whistle for ‘not trans’, so by asserting that a woman is ‘an adult female’ he’s saying trans women aren’t women (and that trans men aren’t men).

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      • Diddlydee@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I don’t use the term cis. I use the term woman and you knew exactly what I meant. A blonde woman is a description of a woman’s hair colour and you know this. That’s nothing at all to do with the clear and simple fact that a woman who used to be a man is not the same thing as a (cis) woman.

        ‘adult human female’ is not a dog whistle. It’s a legal and common-sense definition that you clearly understand but are trying to make out to be hate. I am not denying the legitimacy of transwomen; nor is Keir.

        Transwomen and (cis) women are different things. And Transmen and (cis) men are different things. They have different names, which you yourself, use for a reason. That reason being they are not the same thing.

        It’s pretty simple.

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