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Comment on I Believe That It's Important For All of Us to Understand What 'Decentralization' Truly Means. Please, Let's Talk About That

bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

Realistically, more people need to self-host, or at the very least we need more mon-and-pop style datacenters. The foundational protocols of the Internet inherently make the web decentralized, but most would rather offload hardware costs and, more importantly, security, to those more knowledgeable. Not that I blame them, as running one’s own hardware is extremely time intensive, nevermind power and equipment costs, but it’s no wonder that conglomerates have stepped up to fill that role (nevermind economies of scale). Yet, this is how we’ve fallen into the situation we are in now.

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melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

mom-and-pop style datacenters

I find this wording very funny for some reason. I do wonder what a more-decentralized internet would look like though, rather than 90% of it being in the hands of a few megacorps.

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- bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  I honestly think the drivers model has some merit to it, and it’d be interesting to see federated data centers. I dunno how well it would work out, but it would be interesting.
  
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JovialSodium@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Risk is also a factor re: self hosting.

You’re exposing potential attack vectors, which is particularly concerning if self hosting = home hosting.

Also with home hosting, it’s probably against your ISP’s TOS. It is for mine (I actually read it!). Will they do anything? Probably not. But it’s a risk.

You could face legal issues if someone posts illegal content, since you’re hosting it. Even unwittingly.

Those concerns are what stop me. Because I otherwise think I’d enjoy hosting a little corner in the fediverse.
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- bobs_monkey@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Valid points. Also too, the cost associated with a business class data plan that actually allows hosting. If you think about it, it really is an arbitrary restriction put in place by ISPs to goad those who want to leverage the internet’s potential into more expensive plans.
  
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  - dan@upvote.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    business class data plan that actually allows hosting
    
    You can get a VPS for $30/year. Self hosting doesn’t mean it has to be at your house. In some cases, using d VPS ends up cheaper than just the electricity cost for hosting at home, let alone hardware costs, internet costs, etc.
    
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remington@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

more people need to self-host, or at the very least we need more mon-and-pop style datacenters.

most would rather offload hardware costs and, more importantly, security, to those more knowledgeable.

running one’s own hardware is extremely time intensive, nevermind power and equipment costs

These three points that you’ve made are NOT accurate. I could go into great detail as to why this is but I won’t waste our time nor embarrass you.

The problem, unfortunately, always comes down to money.

This isn’t a technological problem.

All of the popular widely used corporate platforms gain more users because they have the money in which to market/advertise themselves.

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- forrgott@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  Wtf??
  
  What the hell are you even smoking???
  
  I do agree with one tiny little bit of your list, though, and that’s the fact that your rebuttal would, in fact, be a waste of time.
  
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