Comment on What are some FOSS programs that are objectively better than their proprietary counterparts?

• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  People learned on Photoshop, and then they’re upset because GIMP does things differently. I guarantee you if somebody had learned on GIMP first, it would be the other way around.

  There’s nothing intuitive about Photoshop. If you pick it up with zero knowledge and try to do anything, you can’t. You have to take a class to learn how to use it, same as GIMP.

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• rodneylives@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I think you’re overstating things a bit, but it’s true that I keep getting caught up by weird behaviors.

  I paste image data into a layer. I drag the layer a bit to get it where I want it. I try drawing on that layer: nothing happens. Turns out, when I pasted the image, it created a layer the size of the current image with all the extra space filled with transparent pixels. When I dragged it, the transparent part of the layer that had been off the image’s borders was actually dead space, and it won’t accept drawing into it until I go under layers and choose to expand the layer to the dimensions of the image. Once you realize what’s happening it’s not so bad, but until that point it’s the software working how you don’t expect it, and some people are going to drive themselves batty trying to figure it out.

  And just now in 3.0 I’ve discovered, if I copy a rectangular part of an image using the Rectangle Select tool, then paste that data into another program, what gets pasted is a transparent box the size of the original image full of transparent pixels, with the copied part opaque in the middle of it in its former position inside the image.

  It seems like it’s purposely trying to come up with an unintuitive way to implement my actions. I don’t remember it being like this in the past. What happened?

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  • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I really don’t think I’m overstating things, I go back to the early 90s, I started with Harvard graphics and stuff like that… I have used so many damn image editing softwares, and I’ve even made a few of my own.

    I’m honestly going to just plant my foot and say gimp is a misbegotten atrocious lump of shit from a UI perspective - a complete embarrassment, and a complete failure from any perspective of usability science

    It is absolutely at the bottom of the pack of any piece of software I have ever used, it’s hard to pick up various heaps bunch of shit and decide what smells the worst, so I’m not going to say it’s the worst, but it’s floating at the bottom of the septic tank

    I cannot believe that people continue to step up and defend it, it’s garbage.

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    • varjen@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      When was the last time you tried gimp? It inproved a lot when they made it a single window instead of the original insane multiwindow model. It’s probably not as well organized as PS but it’s really not as bad as you say IMO.

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• Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Or, is it your hesitation to adopt Gimp’s UI standards?

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  • Hugin@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Gimp doesn’t have UI standards. That’s part of the problem.

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  • Krudler@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Gimp is what happens when programmers think that they can design things

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