Comment on Time to grow up.

• SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Ya know, all you’re doing here is advertising the fact that you have no empathy whatsoever.

  Literally nothing else.

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  • abraxas@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    This is an example of behavior that pushes anyone who isn’t a militant vegan away. I even know vegans who have second thoughts about their decisions over attitudes like those represented in the comment above me.

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    • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      I’m not vegan I just don’t lie to myself

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      • abraxas@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        Neither do I. If I had my say, everyone would spend some time on a farm and kill their own food at least once.

        There is empathy, and there is misappropriation. Farmed animals have it better than wild animals.

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  • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    i have empathy. cows giving birth and producing milk isn’t abuse.

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    • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      Makes sense you are a pro lifer

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      • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        i’m a what?

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• dx1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

  Yeah, it is. Actual industry practice - impregnate cow mechanically without consent, bring baby cow to term, kill majority of baby cows for veal after separation after a few days from birth, repeat after cows stops producing milk, until cow is used up (around 10 years IIRC, a fraction of their normal lifespan) and also killed for meat.

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  • ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    Talking about cows giving consent for sex is peak insanity. Do you think bulls take a cow out for a few dates beforehand?

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    • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      No, I don’t. Do you think the behavior of animals justifies human behavior?

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      • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        no one suggested that.

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  • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    it makes no sense to discuss consent from cows. do you get consent from a lamp when you turn it on?

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  • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    The normal lifespan of a dairy cow is 5 years. two and a half to 3 years for beef cattle.

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    • dx1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

      The natural lifespan of a cow is ~25 years.

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      • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        no it’s not.

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    • lady_maria@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

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      • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        there has literally never been a holstein that lived 20 years without human intervention.

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      • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        no, it’s not.

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      • HardNut@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

        If a cow escapes the pasture, I wouldn’t be surprised to find it dead in 20 minutes. They require the aid of fences and the protection of farm dogs in the vast majority of environments they live in. Whoever is getting cattle to live 20 years is not doing so naturally, far from it

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  • federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨years⁩ ago

    almost no cows end up as veal.

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