Comment on nature is music
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 month agoThat verse is used to justify rape. Not just rape, but entire slave trade networks that revolve around rape. (and that’s in today’s world, not some ugly footnote in distant history)
That you personally interpret it differently is moot: people’s actual lives are destroyed over a fairy tale, and that shit is absolutely evil.
I don’t think you’ll find any slavery where rape was in practice forbidden.
Yeah no shit, that’s because slavery, and the people who engage in slavery are and always have been abhorrent, as are systems that enable slavery regardless of religious vs secular context.
Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
OK, because the way you replied with that off-topic Quran verse to a Quran verse related to the topic of the post made my think that your point was railing on Islam.
Not that “slavery is bad”, which I also didn’t think needed to be replied somewhat arcanely to posts.
Do we need to write a “slavery is bad” reply to any time vikings or Christianity come up in the comments?
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My beef is with religious down-throatism. I don’t care if it’s Islam, or Christianity, or Satanism, or the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
If you want to talk about your favorite ghost story, make or visit a community for it - it has no place here.
Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
It’s a shame that a relevant quote from literature was removed.
Poor show on the part of the mods.
Where I disagree is that someone having a quote from a religious thing is invalid, when it’s not actively pushing to convert. Just kinda existing showing religion is there. But I guess we just have different perceptions of what passes for “down-your-throatism”.
Anyhow, all the best and have a good night (or whatever time of day it is when you (or anyone else) read this).
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I mean that’s something we can explore… the post is about some of the cool euphonic examples you can run into in nature or space. The top level comment I took issue with just popped in out of the blue with ‘yay god!’ …like, does the Quran or Bible or w/e say anything about the sound of the cosmos? By all means, share that - it’d relevant to at least some extent, even if it isn’t scientific.
Another approach - role reversal! Let’s say you’re really into knitting and you find some cool new design that you wanted to share with the internet; so you do. Then I pop in and say “Man, that reminds me: isn’t Satan just the coolest?! Freedom from tyranny and all that - everything just reflects back on what a quality god he is!” …your reaction would probably be akin to “…what the actual fuck? What does that have to do with knitting?” So even if I was a satanist, that wouldn’t be an appropriate time to bring it up; nor could I accuse you of being anti-satanist for pointing that out.
But that’s what I mean by religious down-throatism. I’m not calling for a ban on religious content, I’m asking that religious people use the same discretion you would with any other topic. Like, I really enjoy old-school RPGs, Symphonic Metal, Indian food, (and, and, and,) but that hypothetical thread about knitting isn’t an appropriate place to post about any of those either.
I’d wager that vast majority, if not all, of the negative response this comment chain started with was from that angle. As opposed to targeted religious bigotry, which is not and should not be tolerated.